Hello Ivan. Somehow I seem to get the impression that you think that vaccines were responsible for getting rid of polio. Maybe I am mistaken? However, just in case I am not, thought I would suggest some reading that you might find interesting. My favourite aunt was afflicted with polio as a child, which resulted in her being crippled for the rest of her life. I was the flower girl at her wedding, it was the only time since before she got polio that she walked without her canes. So I decided to learn about polio. I just wish that I had looked into it years before I did - she died from complications when she broke her hip several years ago. Dr Bruno specializes in Post-Polio and might have been able to help her. I just don't like crediting people or organizations with things that they are not responsible for. GRAPHICAL EVIDENCE SHOWS VACCINES DIDN'T SAVE US there is a chart & graph here for polio also. _http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web1.html_ (http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web1.html) “Polio” by Neil Z. Miller of Think Twice Global Vaccine Institute The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy,and long-term health-related consequences. Current disease reduction techniques that emphasize short-term gains over long-term health consequences need to be reevaluated and discontinued while new and safer health paradigms are researched and implemented. SECTIONS: What is polio?; How is polio contracted?; Can polio be treated?; Does a polio vaccine exist?; Which vaccine is in use today?; Are polio vaccines safe?; How effective are polio vaccines?; Polio vaccines and cancer; Polio vaccines and AIDS; Didn’t AIDS originate in Africa?; Test the polio vaccines; AIDS within the Gay community; Polio vaccines and Mad Cow disease; AIDS with no identified risk factor (NIR); More animal viruses; Mutated polio strains; How is today’s polio vaccine produced?; Are positive changes possible?; 177 References. Every year, more than 12,000 people in the United States file vaccine-damage reports with the FDA documenting serious ad-verse reactions to mandated immunizations (children are mainly affected). The FDA estimates that this represents just 10 percent of the true rate. Yet, even these figures pale in comparison to the number of cases of new diseases scientifically linked to inoculations: MMR and autism, polio vaccines and cancer, the hepatitis B vaccine and multiple sclerosis, the Hib vaccine and diabetes, to name just a few. I want everyone to think through this enigmatic and controversial subject on their own. I believe that parents are capable of obtaining the facts and making knowledgeable choices regarding the care and welfare of their children.References 177. _http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf_ (http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf)
Polio Index: What part did vaccines play in the eradication of Polio? A few facts: Before the first Salk vaccine trials, polio incidence had already declined greatly. Decline was even greater by the time the Salk and Sabine vaccines came into widespread use. The intensive use in 1958 was followed by more than a doubling of incidence. At no time after the introduction of the two vaccines against polio was decline greater than before vaccine introduction. Graph showing Death from Polio: Australia; The Polio Death Rate was Decreasing on its Own Before the Vaccine was Introduced; _http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm_ (http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm) Polio poster girl cured Eleanor McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer): "Another typical case of the difference between the medical and non-medical approach to healing is that of THE POLIO POSTER GIRL for the March of Dimes. Little Winifred Gardella, had been treated for polio by medical doctors for two and a half years, and the best they could do was to release her as a hopeless cripple wearing crutches and leg braces — with no hope for the rest of her life. Her picture was used on the March of Dimes posters to jerk more donations from people, to carry on more of this failure system of medical mix-up and mess. After she left the medical hosptial, her mother took her to a drugless doctor, Dr. Lewis Robertson (Chiropractor), who treated her with special drugless methods and had her well and walking in less than six months. (See photographs, Fig. I and 2). These are just two (flu and polio) of the thousands of better and more successful treatments which the "qualified" drugless doctors have, which should be used, instead of the damaging medical methods." _http://www.whale.to/v/poliogirl.html_ (http://www.whale.to/v/poliogirl.html) Louella Harris: A Missionary For Upper Cervical Chiropractic Louella Harris, a patient turned spokesperson, is on a mission. In 1958, she became a victim of polio at age 3, eight months after taking a vaccine in Kenya, East Africa. For much of her life, she has endured the crushing disappointment and despair of failed medical treatments. But after discovering upper cervical chiropractic care, she has made remarkable progress in her battle against the excruciating pain and relentless fatigue that plagued her. And she is telling her powerful story to the public. _http://www.whale.to/a/chiro.html_ (http://www.whale.to/a/chiro.html) Polio prevention & treatment "According to a survey made in 1946 regarding the percentage of polio recoveries under the various methods of healing we have this interesting report: 91 % to 100% recover under certain Chiropractic treatment—(not all chiropractors understand this method), 97% to 100% recover under correct Hygienic treatment, 72% under Nurse Kenny treatment, 35% recover with no professional care, 17% under medical care."----Eleanor McBean _http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio.html_ (http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio.html) Nutrition & infection quotes "Perhaps the greatest evil of immunization lies in its diversion of public attention from true methods of disease prevention. It encourages public authorities to permit all kinds of sanitary defects and social problems to remain undressed, particularly in schools. It ignores the part played by food and sunlight and many other factors in the maintenance of health." -----M. Beddow Bayly, M.R.C.S., 1944 "Most people believe that every disease on the following list has an infectious cause: HIV/AIDS, SARS, West Nile, Mad Cow, CJD and other Spongiform Encephalopathies, Foot and Mouth, Hepatitis C, Polio, Avian Flu, & the 1918 ‘ Spanish’ Flu. There is considerable scientific evidence that these disease do not just have non-infectious co-factors, but that they are almost entirely non-infectious."---David Crowe -- 45 percent of measles deaths associated with low weight and poor nutrition. Malnutrition is to blame for more than half of all the deaths of children around the world -- including deaths caused by diarrhea, pneumonia, malaria and measles, researchers said on Thursday. Poor nourishment leaves children underweight and weakened and vulnerable to infections that do not have to be fatal, the team at the World Health Organization and Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore found. They estimated that feeding all children worldwide an adequate diet would prevent about 1 million deaths a year from pneumonia, 800,000 from diarrhea, 500,000 from malaria, and 250,000 from measles...... They estimate that 52.5 percent of all deaths in young children were attributable to undernourishment, with nearly 45 percent of measles deaths and more than 60 percent of deaths from diarrhea associated with low weight and poor nutrition. [Media, Jun 17] Better Nutrition Could Save Millions of Kids-Study _http://www.whale.to/a/nutrition.html_ (http://www.whale.to/a/nutrition.html) T'N'T: Tips and Techniques for Polio Survivors by Dr. Richard L. Bruno _http://bellsouthpwp.net/S/u/SurvivingPolio/bruno4.pdf_ (http://bellsouthpwp.net/S/u/SurvivingPolio/bruno4.pdf) blessings Shan From: "Ivan Menchero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org) > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:22:29 +0800 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org) Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Things you're not supposed to know about Swine flu vaccine Message: 4 Hi Charlie, All went ....OK, I guess I could believe you until point #7, that sounds like a Jesus freak selling me his Lord, needless to say that with #10 you lost the hole point. If you actually want to get thru, I agree with part of the message, because vaccines work I am not saying that a quick vaccine would! (I do not see many people with polio lately) Regards, Ivan -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kirk McLoren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:49 PM To: "Charlie Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Subject: [Biofuel] Things you're not supposed to know about Swine flu vaccine > > Please share... > > Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccineby Mike > Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor > > (NaturalNews) She was deathly afraid of the flu. > So she asked her doc what she should do. > He jabbed her unseen > With a swine flu vaccine > Blurting, "Darling, I haven't a clue." > - by the Health Ranger > > Let's not beat around the bush on this issue: The swine flu vaccines now > being prepared for mass injection into infants, children, teens and adults > have never been tested and won't be tested before the injections begin. In > Europe, where flu vaccines are typically tested on hundreds (or thousands) > of people before being unleashed on the masses, the European Medicines > Agency is allowing companies to skip the testing process entirely. > > And yet, amazingly, people are lining up to take the vaccine, absent any > safety testing whatsoever. When the National Institutes of Health in the > U.S. announced a swine flu vaccine trial beginning in early August, it was > inundated with phone calls and emails from people desperate to play the > role of human guinea pigs. The power of fear to herd sheeple into vaccine > injections is simply amazing... > > Back in Europe, of course, everybody gets to be a guinea pig since no > testing will be done on the vaccine at all. Even worse, the European > vaccines will be using adjuvants -- chemicals used to multiply the potency > of the active ingredients in vaccines. > > Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in > infants and expectant mothers -- the two groups being most aggressively > targeted by the swine flu vaccine pushers. The leads us to the disturbing > conclusion that the swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. > It's untested and un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite > dangerous, and the adjuvants being used in the European vaccines are > suspected of causing neurological disorders. > > > Paralyzed by vaccinesI probably don't need to remind you that in 1976, a > failed swine flu vaccine caused irreparable damage to the nervous systems > of hundreds of people, paralyzing many. Medical doctors gave the problem a > name, of course, to make it sound like they knew what they were talking > about: Guillain-Barre syndrome. (Notably, they never called it "Toxic > Vaccine Syndrome" because that would be too informative. ) > > But the fact remains that doctors never knew how the vaccines caused these > severe problems, and if the same event played out today, all the doctors > and vaccine pushers would undoubtedly deny any link between the vaccines > and paralysis altogether. (That's what's happening today with the debate > over vaccines and autism: Complete denial.) > > In fact, there are a whole lot of things you'll never be told by health > authorities about the upcoming swine flu vaccine. For your amusement, I've > written down the ten most obvious ones and published them below. > > > Ten things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine(At > least, not by anyone in authority... ) > > #1 - The vaccine production was "rushed" and the vaccine has never been > tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, > line up for your swine flu vaccine this fall... > > #2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an > inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of > causing autism and other neurological disorders. > > #3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from > swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There > is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful > protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of > modern medicine. > > #4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so > many people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming > vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not > testing it, either...) > > #5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't > responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete > immunity against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket > immunity, drug companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because > they only get paid based on quantity, not safety (zero liability). > > #6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from > influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. > government, the FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize. > > #7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking > if everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because > it can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you > believe in the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to go > get vaccinated.. .. > > #8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of > swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you > don't get the jab -- because it's all paid by the taxpayers. > > #9 - When people start dying in larger numbers from the swine flu, rest > assured that many of them will be the very people who got the swine flu > vaccine. Doctors will explain this away with their typical Big Pharma > logic: "The number saved is far greater than the number lost." Of course, > the number "saved" is entirely fictional... imaginary... and exists only > in their own warped heads. > > #10 - The swine flu vaccine centers that will crop up all over the world > in the coming months aren't completely useless: They will provide an easy > way to identify large groups of really stupid people. (Too bad there isn't > some sort of blue dye that we could tag 'em with for future reference... ) > > The lottery, they say, is a tax on people who can't do math. Similarly, > flu vaccines are a tax on people who don't understand health. > > "Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who could not > hear the music." > -Angela Monet > > Dona L Wheeler www.ChironLightMuse .com > Volunteer Human Rights Investigator > Citizens Commission On Human Rights > > Roanoke, Va. 24018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090730/0da80cd8/attachment.html _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/