I'm having a heck of a time finding statistics on
hospital death or medical treatments for the USA Keith.
I haven't a clue where to find that.  Do you know?

-Mark Hoagy

On 1/11/2011 2:18 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
>> That's fine Keith
>
> I certainly don't think so, but if you do I guess that's your business.
>
>> but motor vehicles here in the USA
>> cause far higher deaths.  How did that discussion pan out?
>>
>> -Mark Hoagy
>
> Yes, we had that discussion too. Small cars got blamed (which means
> you'd make no sense whatsoever out of Japan, for one).
>
> Anyway, have you got some numbers for that?
>
> I think even more Americans get killed by medical treatment (nearly a
> million a year?) - what do you make of that?
>
> Best
>
> Keith
>
>
>> On 1/11/2011 11:55 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
>>>   Hi Hoagy
>>>
>>>>   "If you lack the stability or ability to be a responsible
>>>>   gun owner, then by all means you should not have one but
>>>>   don't try to tell me that I can't or shouldn't have one."
>>>>
>>>>   That quote makes sense to me.
>>>
>>>   So then would this also make sense to you?
>>>
>>>   "The US has well over 250 million guns in private hands according to
>>>   the National Rifle Association. That is more, according to the BBC,
>>>   than any country in the world. In one year, guns murdered 17 people
>>>   in Finland, 35 in Australia, 39 in England and Wales, 60 in Spain,
>>>   194 in Germany, 200 in Canada, and 9,484 in the United States
>>>   according to the Brady Campaign."
>>>   -- Serious Guns and White Terrorism: Two Unasked Questions in Tucson
>>>   Mass Murder
>>>   by Bill Quigley, Monday, January 10, 2011, CommonDreams.org
>>>   http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/10
>>>
>>>   Hm. We've had this discussion here before. Guns lost.
>>>
>>>   Best
>>>
>>>   Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>>   I don't plan on going to jail for life.
>>>>   Losing my temper and shooting up folks doesn't appeal to me.
>>>>
>>>>   -Mark Hoagy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 1/11/2011 10:38 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
>>>>>     Tue, 11 Jan 2011
>>>>>     Foreign Policy In Focus
>>>>>
>>>>>     [World Beat] Gun Crazy
>>>>>
>>>>>     A project of the Institute for Policy Studies
>>>>>     World Beat
>>>>>     http://www.fpif.org/worldbeat
>>>>>     by JOHN FEFFER | Tuesday, January 11, 2011
>>>>>     Vol. 6, No. 2
>>>>>
>>>>>     Gun Crazy
>>>>>
>>>>>     The Pentagon and the National Rifle Association have a lot in common
>>>>>     these days. They're in love with guns. They maintain powerful
>>>>>     lobbies. They refuse to acknowledge the dangerous consequences of
>>>>>     their policies.
>>>>>
>>   >>    >   And they're both on the defensive.




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