Hi Seth;

You are not the first person to consider using the esters as a fluid in 
a hydrionic system.  However the esters can do unexpected things to 
plastic fittings or elements of plastic assemblies and I think you would 
be well advised to instead use a more conventional hydrionic system and 
put a coil of tubing inside your reactor vessel as a heat exchanger.  
That way you have the option of using latent heat from your reactor to 
heat your floor, but also you can heat the reactor to some degree with 
heat from another source such as thermal solar tubes etc.  I saw a setup 
like that and it works well.  Eventually you WILL have a leak and it is 
much preferable to be cleaning up water/glycol than esters believe me. 
If esters leak inside a slab......???

Joe

On 22/02/2011 2:16 PM, Seth Macdonald wrote:
> Thanks for the tips Keith.
>
> the "Journey to Forever" website has revolutionized my family's life! 
> Everything
> I have learned thus far about Bio-Diesel has been learned from going to your
> site and hands on experience. I've got a long way to go, but my community is 
> now
> addicted to the concept of running on renewable energies!
>
>
> Thanks to all who have worked to research and develop the future of energy in
> our society. I'll send some photos etc. of my facility when it is finished.
>
> Another concept I am about to explore is using the  biodiesel in my hydronic
> heating system thereby drying it while heating the floor of my shop.I 
> installed
> an infloor pex pipe system in a concrete slab in the fall and I'm about to 
> hook
> it up as the final stage in the processor. Once the fuel has circulated 
> through
> the floor and had ample time to return to the reservoir and dry, it would be
> siphoned off as fuel, making room for the next batch that needs to be dried to
> take it's place. Only washed bio-diesel would be used for this. Are there any
> problems inherent with heating bio-diesel to 140 degrees?
>
> Seth "Dredneck" Macdonald
>
> Dunster BC
> CANADA
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Keith Addison<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 10:11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Query on breaking emulsions
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Seth Macdonald here from Northern BC CANADA. I run a very small bio-diesel
>> refinery with plans to sell/trade with local organic farmers this
>> coming spring.
>> This winter has been particularly harsh up here and I am having problems
>> maintaining constant temperatures in my shop. This has led to a variety of
>> problems.
> You might consider this:
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/RSwoh1.html
>
>> Does anyone out there have any ideas on breaking an emulsion with a
>> large batch
>> of fuel that will NOT separate from the wash water? I know, it
>> should never have
>> happened in the first place.
> That's right - emulsions shouldn't happen.
>
>> Cross-contamination due to cooled glycerin in the
>> processor lines is likely the culprit. Even though the product DID
>> pass the wash
>> test.
> And the methanol test?
>
>> I have tried heating and cooling, but it is taking a ridiculous amount of
>> energy to heat 40 gallons of emulsified fuel and I can't seem to get it hot
>> enough to make any difference.
>>
>> Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated.
> http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html#emulsion
>
> Best
>
> Keith
>
>
>> Seth "The Dredneck" Macdonald
>> Robson Valley Bio-fuels
>> Dunster BC
>> CANADA
>> V0J 1J0
>>
>> PH: 250-968-4411
>
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