I have not tritrated the oil, as it is new oil that I have been using. 
I've been meaning to pick up some chemicals for tritration, 
unfortunately my schedule hasn't permitted me to do so lately. 
Is tritration necessary for new oils?
 

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:44:01 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How do I get the paper thin white layer
> 
> Hello C Pinelli. Did you check the FFA and water contents on your raw 
> material before processing ? FFA levels above 5 mg KOH/g (2,5%) will produce 
> a lot of soaps, making the processing bad and the separation even worse. The 
> water content will promote the soap production and will also compete with 
> the methanol. The highest acceptable water content is around 1,5% and the 
> lower the better.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "C Pinelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How do I get the paper thin white layer
> 
> 
> >
> > I am having a similar problem, I have experience making ethanol 
> > successfully, but I'm new to biodiesel.
> > I've been trying to get it right for some time with many many test 
> > batches, without too much success.
> > I've followed the instructions as closely as possible, but still can't 
> > quite get it right. I use 90% KOH Flakes,
> > a scale thats accurate to the hundreth of a gram, and am incredibly 
> > meticulous in my measurements.
> > I've had mixed (but mostly good)results with the methanol test, but have 
> > never consistantly passed the
> > wash test. Sometimes I get a very thick separation line between the two, 
> > sometimes I get clear water on
> > the bottom with a yellowy mayo like substance on top. Sometimes it seems 
> > to have the reverse result,
> > where it appears to be clear biodiesel on top, with very murky white water 
> > underneath.
> >
> > I've tried various amount of KOH and methanol, and varying my processing 
> > times, but I can't seem to get it
> > down. As soon as my schedule permits, I'm going to try to get some new 
> > chemicals, because im worried
> > that my lye might be water contaminated.
> >
> > Any help deciphering these results would be really appreciated.
> >
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:51:30 -0500
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >> Subject: [Biofuel] How do I get the paper thin white layer
> >>
> >> Hello to all. I've made two test batches of biodiesel using new oil using
> >> the instructions on the JTF site, which I've read and re-read, along with
> >> many of the mailing list posts. I'm enjoying everything I'm learning, but
> >> still have a ton to learn. I also have a question. In both my test 
> >> batches
> >> I've performed the quality tests recommended. The fuel passes the 
> >> methanol
> >> test fine, with no glycerine settling out. When I come to the wash test, 
> >> I
> >> have perhaps an eighth of an inch of white foam between the water and the
> >> biodiesel. It separates quite well though. I've tried to follow all
> >> instructions to the letter and I ordered my chemicals from DudaDiesel, so 
> >> I
> >> assume they are a good quality. I assume the foam is soap. It could be 
> >> that
> >> my measurements aren't precise enough, but if they aren't it's because of 
> >> my
> >> instruments. I have been very meticulous in my measurements.
> >>
> >> I've gone ahead and washed the biodiesel from both batches, and they also
> >> have a lot of white foam, although they also separate very quickly. With
> >> both batches I've just kept washing until there's no more white junk and 
> >> the
> >> water is clear. Does this take care of the soap (if that's what it is), 
> >> or
> >> is there still something to be concerned about? Also, any suggestions on 
> >> how
> >> to get that "paper thin" white layer instead of the thicker one I have 
> >> now?
> >> I'm using new oil, what I think are quality chemicals, and I'm being as
> >> meticulous as I know how to be. As far as I know, I'm following your
> >> instructions to the letter.
> >>
> >> I thank you for your help,
> >>
> >> Ian
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