At 12:46 PM 2/26/2008 -0600, Gail wrote: >Living more sustainable is going to mean challenging many of the >behaviors that have been marketed to us by corporations and media. It's >going to bring up the ick factor for many of us.
Dear Friends--And once we drop over the edge into the future energy descent many of us are gonna be lucky to be able to heat enough hot water at once to make a cup of tea let alone take a long hot shower every day. Alternative technology: Holes punched in the bottom of a 5-gallon bucket (a big nail works well) suspended from a tree limb with a rope (or hook in the ceiling if you have 10-1/2 foot ceilings like I do above my existing tub); you have to heat the water in another bucket first by letting it set in sun for a few hours, or on top of the wood stove, if there is any wood left in your neighborhood. >But if we don't have an >honest and open dicussion, how can we ever hope to change things? No offense to Tony or anyone else, but we are going to all have to hang together and figure out as much of this stuff as we can, together, as we go along. Have a wonderful day. Tom P.S.: My most recent reading. Not new, but very apropos to some aspects of this conversation. http://www.oilcrisis.com/whatToDo/DeindustrialAge.htm Tom Shelley 118 E. Court St. Ithaca, NY 14850 607 342-0864 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.myspace.com/99319958 P I thank you for printing this e-mail only if it is necessary "Sustainable development is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs." The World Commission on Environment and Development, Gro Harlem Brundtland Our Common Future, Oxford University Press, 1987 MY NOTE: Sustainable development does not mean "sustainable growth" as growth per se is not sustainable. And the term "sustainable" has to mean "for a very long time" (A. Bartlett). "The frog does not drink up the pond in which he lives." Sioux proverb _______________________________________________ RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: [email protected] http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org
