George, No offense taken and thanx for the very interesting story in Vietnam. Did you learn of this during or after the American War? (this can be a off line conversation) Tony
On 2/29/08, George Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deer have avoided our yard since we got our dog a little over three years > ago. > > What may help is that we 1) she is let out on a cable run, which means > she is free to spend as much time as she likes outdoors; 2) she is extremely > territorial; and 3) she sheds an enormous amount of fur which we comb out > and distribute to areas of the yard that she cannot reach on her cable. > > We regularly see deer in the yards surrounding ours, but they now do not > venture into our yard. > > On the subject of human fertilizer: there are no interior bathrooms with > running water, nor outhouses in the rural hamlets in Vietnam where my > in-laws live. There is however plenty of rice paddy nearby. > > Despite the free ranging cattle and water buffalo I also never had to > worry about stepping in cow plops. They just seem to appear, then disappear > like magic! > > I also have not seen any sign of deodorant use there, nor have I ever > encountered anybody with any unattractive body odor there, despite > temperatures in the triple digits and ultra high humidity during > rice-harvest time and no daily shower routine. > > The same applies to the streets of Hanoi and Hoi An, and (sorry Tony) to > the cooks and wait staff of our favorite family run down off the tourist > track eateries. > > Having grown up on a farm and knowing how the nose easily acclimates to > smells after certain amount of exposure, that may be what happens outside > the hyper-clean United States. > > I still remember how shortly after my arrival back in Ithaca from a trip > I was walking down the Commons during a rain shower and was structure at how > unnaturally clean and sanitizedy the place smelled in the rain. > > North Vietnamese solidiers had a standing joke during the American War. > (Yeah, they refer to them as the Japanese War, the French War and the > American War) If you had a good sense of smell you'd never get caught in an > American ambush. Toothpaste on the breath would give the ambush location > away everytime. > > George Frantz > > > > > Jan Quarles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, our two Border Collies have kept all deer away from our garden for > more > than 7 years. In fact, the deer don't even come within hundreds of feet of > our garden because they can smell DOG all over our yard. > > Last winter, though, the squirrels climbed over the 5-ft high chicken-wire > fence surrounding our garden, and munched on the garlic we had planted in > Nov '06. So in Nov '07, we outsmarted them by covering the raised garlic > bed > with black mesh netting. We plan to cover our strawberry beds with the > netting too, as part of our on-going participation in the ancient > "Mammal-Rodent Conflict." > > - Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret McCasland" > To: "Sustainable Tompkins County listserv" > > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [SustainableTompkins] deer repellents: waste stream thread > > > >I know fox urine is sold commercially as a deterrent. I also know > > that hungry deer get bold and will ignore LOTS of things (like shiny > > pie plates, Irish Spring soap bars, etc), jump high fences, eat what > > they are not supposed to like, etc. > > > > From some research I did in the past, I was told that the only > > consistently good repellent is having dogs in your yard. > > > > _______________________________________________ > RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: > [email protected] > http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins > free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: > [email protected] > http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins > free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org > -- The health of society thus depends quite as much on the independence of the individuals composing it as on their close political cohesion. Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: [email protected] http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org
