From Jim Trondsen, the chair of the Water Committee of the Finger  Lakes
Group.

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Subject:    Bad things happen to good lakes.
Date:     Tue, 15 Apr 2008  00:48:01 GMT
From:     Jane & Jim Trondsen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:

Hi Everyone,

This is Jim  Trondsen with some disturbing news about state waters and
about New York  State Department of Environmental Conservation.

This month marks the  fifth anniversary of the experimental whole-lake
application of the chemical  fluoridone to Waneta Lake in the Finger
Lakes area.  The application was  permitted by DEC for the purpose of
eradicating eurasian water milfoil from  the lake.  At the time of this
experiment it was the largest single  application of fluoridone
anywhere.  The experiment was a disaster for  the lake.  Milfoil was not
eradicated and is now back to pretreatment  levels.  Five species of
native plants are still missing, and native  plants are still depressed
by 80%.  Due to the highly disturbed  condition of the lake, three more
invasive species have infested the lake,  including zebra mussels.

Two important lessons should be learned from the  Waneta Lake
disaster: disturbed habitat invites infestations by invasive  species;
and treating a symptom (milfoil) while ignoring the root  causes
(disturbed condition of the lake) only makes the situation  worse.

The same group of people that were permitted to apply fluoridone  five
years ago are now applying to do the same thing with a  different
chemical called triclopyr.  They want to apply 49,000 pounds  of solid
and 1135 gallons of liquid to all of Waneta Lake and its  sister
lake Lamoka and Mill Pond, an adjoining wetland.  This is  another
experiment because it would be the largest aquatic application of  this
chemical anywhere.  Concentrations of triclopyr would be over 100  times
the concentration used for fluoridone.  And triclopyr has  very
disturbing characteristics: it is known for its ability to  penetrate
into ground water and it may be considered a type C  carcinogen.

Evidently DEC is poised to permit application of triclopyr,  since they
have already awarded the permit applicants a grant of $200,000 of  New
York State funds intended for eradication of aquatic invasive  species.
This is a disproportionate 15% of the total funds for the entire  state.
One questions the fairness, especially since the award is for two  lakes
from which the public is excluded.  There is no public shoreline  access
on either lake.

Finally, it appears from the Supplemental  Environmental Impact Statement
and the manufacturer's data that triclopyr  will have to be
applied indefinitely, perhaps every year, in order to  "control"
milfoil.  Is DEC prepared to support this application  indefinitely if a
precedent is established?

The public comment period  for the permit ends April 21.  If any of this
bothers you, please  consider mailing or emailing your comments to DEC  at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<http://us.f534.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
If  you get responses, I would be interested to see them.  I look forward
to  hearing from you.

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,
Jim  Trondsen

p.s.
Some individual decision-makers at DEC are as  follows:
Pete Grannis, Commissioner http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/556.html  and
"email the commissioner"
Paul D'Amato, Region 8 Director (585)  226-5366
John Cole, permit administrator  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<http://us.f534.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Scott  Jones, wetlands  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<http://us.f534.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Matt  Sanderson, fisheries  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I  wrote the following detailed letter to DEC:

Dear Department of  Environmental Conservation:

I am commenting on the permit application to  apply herbicide to Waneta
and Lamoka Lakes in the years 2008 and  following.

I request that Department of Environmental Conservation not  permit this
application in whole or in part, for several  reasons.

First, I believe that the application of herbicides is intended  to treat
a symptom and not the root causes of a problem and will not have  an
outcome consistent with environmental conservation. I believe that  the
root cause of invasive infestations is that the lakes are  disturbed
habitat. Septic system leakage, lawn and farm fertilizer, silt,  road
salt, pesticides and other pollutants have been allowed to flow into  the
lakes. Shoreline aquatic vegetation has been forcibly removed,  killed
with illegal herbicides and disturbed by watercraft. Nutrient levels  in
the lakes have become excessive. The lakes have become  disturbed
habitat. As you know, invasive species exploit disturbed habitat.  As a
result, invasive species such as Eurasian Water Milfoil  became
established and thrived. But instead of managing the watershed  to
re-establish a healthy lake, shoreline property owners were permitted  to
use herbicides over the whole lake (Waneta) in an attempt to  eradicate
the invasive species, with disastrous results. The symptom was  not
remedied and the root causes became worse.

The latest published  survey of Waneta Lake, taken four growing seasons
after the 2003 herbicide  treatment, shows that the herbicide did not
eradicate EWM. The herbicide did  eradicate five of the original native
species of plant in the lake, and added  two more invasive plant species
including one (curly-leaf pondweed) that grew  so fast it soon dominated
the lake. The native plant biomass is down 80%, and  EWM is back to its
pretreatment level. The whole-lake herbicide treatment  took a bad
situation and made it much worse. The assurances by the  permit
applicants, their consultants and applicators, of minimal damage  to
native vegetation and a speedy recovery of the lake did not come  true.
Furthermore, another invasive species, zebra mussels, has  become
established all over Waneta Lake, another consequence of the  profoundly
disturbed habitat.

For a role model in watershed  management, one has only to look to
neighboring Keuka Lake. Despite the  inherent problems of a
densely-populated watershed including many  municipalities, heavy
agricultural usage and millions of tourists, Keuka has  the highest water
quality in the Finger Lakes, according to surveys by the  Finger Lakes
Institute. Hard work and patience have paid off. Why can’t this  be done
on Waneta and Lamoka?

A second reason to not permit this  application is the similarity to the
disastrous 2003 application. Department  of Environmental Conservation
made a leap of faith in permitting the  largest-scale application of
fluoridone with no comparable experience. Prior  to the application, the
manufacturer reported the expected half-life of the  fluoridone herbicide
to be 30 days. The actual measured half-life in Waneta  Lake in 2003 was
more like 90 days. This increased the killing potential of  the herbicide
by a factor of three, just as effectively as tripling the  initial
concentration. This persistence of the fluoridone has not  been
explained, however factors may include the typical low sunlight in  our
area, murky water and the large mass of the body of water  treated.
Triclopyr degrades by the same mechanisms that fluoridone does.  Why
wouldn’t triclopyr have an extra-long half-life in these lakes in  the
same way as fluoridone? This is a risk factor that has not  been
addressed. Furthermore, whole-lake application as is proposed for  Lamoka
Lake does not provide refugia for susceptible species.  Whole-lake
application was a very bad management practice in 2003, especially  since
it was known that five of the native plants in Waneta are susceptible  to
damage by fluoridone. The 2008 whole-lake permit request for Lamoka  Lake
is particularly irresponsible in that several native plant species  are
known to be susceptible to damage by triclopyr, and possibly some  fish
and invertebrates as well. This is the same group of people  involved,
the same herbicide supplier, making the same proposal for  eradicating a
species by whole-lake herbicide treatments, again on a scale  previously
untested. Has Department of Environmental Conservation not learned  from
the 2003 disaster?

A third reason to not permit this application  is misrepresentation of
the efficacy of the herbicide by the permit  applicant. The project
description and purpose is written as follows: "Apply  the herbicide
Renovate OTF to eradicate the invasive plant Eurasian  watermilfoil (EWM)
from Waneta Lake." This description implies that EWM will  be completely
eradicated within the time frame of the 2008/2009 application.  Nowhere
in the SEIS or in the manufacturer’s application literature is there  a
claim that this herbicide will eradicate EWM, but merely control it  by
repeated applications. The misrepresentation of eradication was  repeated
in a DEC press release dated 11/23/2007. The press release  announced
DEC-administered state grants for the Waneta-Lamoka project in  the
amount of $200,000, nearly 15% of the total funds in the  state-wide
program. The permit application requests permission to apply  49,000
pounds of solid and 1135 gallons of liquid herbicide. Since  the
manufacturer claims only partial control and not eradication,  evidently
the applications will have to be done forever. A precedent has now  been
established. Does Department of Environmental Conservation plan  on
funding these applications indefinitely? One would question the  fairness
of disproportionate state grants being awarded to two lakes from  which
the public is excluded. There is no public shoreline access on either  lake.

The most recent published survey of Lamoka Lake (2006) shows that  native
plants are healthy and dominant, accounting for 78% of the  biomass.
Lamoka also has one of the richest aquatic systems in Central New  York
in species diversity, with 26 native species. A healthy assemblage  of
native plants is the first line of defense against invasives.  Experience
shows that there is a high risk of damage to these native plants  from an
application of herbicide, especially if the irrational  whole-lake
proposal is permitted. Experience in these lakes also shows  that
herbicides have no long-term effect on EWM, but that native plants  are
damaged beyond repair. The proposed 2008 treatment would be the  fourth
in a series of ineffective or disastrous herbicide treatments  permitted
in these lakes by Department of Environmental Conservation. The  fourth
reason to not permit the 2008 experiment is that herbicides  are
ineffective, destructive of native plants, and a huge disturbance to  the
habitat.

A fifth reason to not permit is that the herbicides  target wetlands
species. The functions and benefits of submergent wetlands  are at risk.
Flooding mitigation is of high importance to the residents  downstream of
the outlet at Bradford Dam. If the submergent wetlands are  damaged at a
critical time during heavy spring rains, there will be nothing  to
restrict the flow and flooding is more likely. The 100-foot  Adjacent
Areas adjoining the Class I and II wetlands are regulated  Freshwater
Wetlands. The proposal for herbicide application to Class I and  II
regulated wetlands must by law demonstrate that there is an urgent  and
intense need, which clearly outweighs the loss of the wetland in a  way
that is beyond serious debate, and must demonstrate that there is  no
practicable alternative whatever. There is no demonstration of an  urgent
and intense need in the permit application or any of the  attached
documentation. What is this urgent and intense need, and how does  it
outweigh the loss of the functions and benefits of the wetlands? And  why
has the practicable and necessary alternative of watershed  management
been excluded from consideration?

A sixth reason to not  permit is the effect on farmers and gardeners
downstream of the lakes. There  are restrictions on irrigation of crops,
grazing restrictions, and  restrictions on slaughter of farm animals.
Have these restrictions been  explained to those who would be affected?

A seventh reason to not permit  is the public health risk. Triclopyr has
not been proven safe for humans or  animals. No clinical or
epidemiological studies have been done. In fact  testing on mammals has
produced breast tumors, kidney and liver aberrations.  Using EPA’s
classification, triclopyr may be considered a group C  carcinogen.
Triclopyr is known for penetrating into ground water. Triclopyr  is
persistent in anaerobic conditions such as at the depths of lakes  where
contamination of the aquifer is possible. With the application of  49,000
pounds of herbicide, potentially every year, there is a good  possibility
of accumulation and contamination of water supplies for many  people.
This is the largest single aquatic application ever of the  killer
chemical triclopyr. What is the urgent and intense need that  prompts
taking this public health risk?

It has been nearly five years  since the disastrous 2003 experiment that
nearly destroyed the lower end of  the food chain in Waneta Lake. One
thinks of the wasted resources, both in  public and private funding. One
thinks of the lost opportunities to remedy  watershed pollution. One
thinks of poor stewardship and destruction of public  resources. One
thinks of the $600,000 expense for the proposed 2008-9  experiment, and
the likelihood that it will be continued indefinitely in a  vicious cycle
of disturbed habitat and extermination of native  plants.

What is the urgent and intense need, which clearly outweighs the  loss of
one of the richest aquatic habitats in the state, and why has  the
practicable and necessary alternative of watershed management been  ignored?

Please say no to this permit application.

Thank you for  your consideration,

James C. Trondsen
11 Dogwood Lane
Painted Post,  NY 14870



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