george,  yes yes how quickly i have slipped back into
the usa thought pattern.  of course developing
countrieshaved devised unique tools.  i think i was
rememberring many years ago when i viewed , in my 1914
dictionary, a wheelbarrow under transportation images.
 best,  emmy
--- George Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> emmy,
>    
>   I love my wheelbarrow too, but my brother in-laws
> in Viet Nam all have single-axle handcarts with a
> box roughly 5 ft. long, 3 ft, wide and 2 ft. high. 
> The rubber tires are about 2.5 feet in diameter. 
> They are designed and built in such a manner that
> they are balanced over the axle. 
>    
>   Even when pulling one loaded with 2,000 - 3,000
> lbs of bricks you have to put a slight downward
> pressure on the handles as you pull it along.  
>    
>   They beat my wheelbarrow any day!
>    
>   Of course you can't buy such inferior Third-World
> technology in this country.
>    
>   George Frantz 
> 
> emmy koponen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   the term horsepower arrived not humanpower, let us
> not
> underrate the wheelbarrow. i like this topic, and
> meanwhile, before grand spaces to can etc. would
> love
> to gather and put up june fruit. emmy seeking a
> living space starting august or september. enjoy!
> --- Daniel Record wrote:
> 
> > The Power in Gasoline
> > 
> > Have you ever thought about the amount of power in
> a
> > gallon of gasoline equated to human power? Picture
> > a car that gets 30 miles to the gallon. Your
> > average small Honda or Toyota. Can you push this
> > car 1 mile in a day? If you are over 40 years old,
> > probably not. If you are really fit you may be
> able
> > to push this car 2 miles in a day. 
> > 
> > So the for the average ‘1 mile per day car pusher’
> > there are 30 man-days of labor in a single gallon
> of
> > gasoline. That little jug of gas, the size of a
> > gallon of milk, has the amount of energy that
> equals
> > you sweating your butt off for a month. It also
> > includes the 40 or 50 pounds of food that you
> would
> > eat for a month. 
> > 
> > The Creator gave us an amazing gift in hydrocarbon
> > power. A gift that we are totally wasting on trips
> > to the mall to buy Chinese made plastic gagas. We
> > are using this gift as slave labor to empower our
> > foolish egoistic desires at the expense of Life on
> > Earth. 
> > 
> > So let’s put some dollars in the equation so you
> can
> > really relate to that little gallon of gasoline.
> If
> > you paid someone $10 dollars an hour to push your
> > car around and that person could push you and your
> > car and your Chinese gagas a mile a day then it
> > would cost you $80.00 per mile or $2400.00 for
> every
> > 30 miles. So your little gallon of gasoline is
> > worth around $2400.00 in human labor. 
> > 
> > Assume you have hired a strong young teen to push
> > you and your 2000 pounds of carbon debt around the
> > city and he can push you 2 miles a day. That would
> > mean each gallon is worth only $1200.00. If you
> use
> > 10 gallons a week for your average lifestyle the
> > cost in human labor is $12,000.00 per week; 20
> > gallons equals $24,000 per week.
> > 
> > No wonder we will do anything to keep our gasoline
> > fix. The real cost of gasoline slave labor in
> human
> > terms is astronomical. 
> > 
> > If you had a few acres of land, a cabin, a chain
> > saw, a roto tiller and 5 gallons of gasoline, you
> > could live a simple lifestyle with very little
> real
> > labor. The 5 gallons of gasoline could do all the
> > real work required to feed you and cut firewood. 
> > But it will not supply you with any of the
> wasteful
> > luxuries that we are addicted to. 
> > 
> > It is obvious that moving 2000 lbs of steel and
> > plastic to transport a 200 lb human is very
> > inefficient. The energy that you expend on a trip
> > to McDonalds for a burger is many, many times
> > greater than the energy in the burger itself. You
> > might be able to push your car a few blocks from
> the
> > energy in a burger.
> > 
> > I think it is important to repeat myself regarding
> > this. The more I think about it, the deeper I see
> > into my addiction to gasoline. If I make a 10 mile
> > round trip to buy a meal and I think about the
> > amount of energy it would take me to push the car
> 10
> > miles, which is 10 days of hard labor for a ‘1
> mile
> > per day car pusher’. Wow! I would have to keep
> > myself alive, fed and fit for 10 days of hard
> labor
> > just to make a 10 mile trip for dinner. I would
> > have to eat 30 meals to provide the power to drive
> > to one meal. (This all doubles if I am driving a
> > 15mpg SUV and doesn’t include the hydrocarbon debt
> > of getting the food to the restaurant.)
> > 
> > It is easy to see that the future is in bicycles
> or
> > rickshaws. Your young teen could probably move you
> > a mile or two an hour in a rickshaw as he would
> only
> > have to push you and not your 2000 pounds of
> carbon
> > debt. There is NO SUSTAINABLE FUTURE in any kind
> of
> > automobile based society. It doesn’t matter if
> your
> > little box on wheels gets 100 miles per gallon. 
> > This kind of statement is definitely ‘water off a
> > duck’s back’. WAKE UP DUCKY!!!!!!
> > 
> > There is a very similar amount of hydrocarbon
> power
> > in home heating fuels, oil or gas. Picture the
> > black aluminum heat sinks that are on the back of
> > many electrical devices. These heat sinks
> dissipate
> > extra heat from the electrical device into the
> air. 
> > Our cities are just big heat sinks. Our buildings
> > only hold heat for a very short time. Every time
> > your furnace comes on, it means that quantity of
> > heat has escaped to the outdoors. A gallon of fuel
> > oil only lasts a few hours in the average home
> > during the winter. Multiply 5 to 10 gallons of oil
> > per day times the number of homes in a city times
> > 100 days of winter and the numbers get crazy in a
> > hurry. It is ABSOLUTE INSANITY to be constantly
> > burning this amount of power to heat (or cool)
> > buildings. The highest use for oil is to make
> > insulation, not to make heat.
> > 
> > 10 gallons of heating oil will move a 1984
> > Volkswagen diesel Rabbit for 500 miles. Would you
> > rather walk 500 miles, heat your home for 1 or 2
> > days or run your garden tractor to eat? In the not
> > too distant future we are going to face decisions
> > like this. At this moment I’ll bet the little
> > quacker in the back of your brain is telling you
> > that it will never come to this and I don’t know
> > what I am talking about. You and your little
> > quacker better get in touch with the real world
> > Ducky.
> > 
> > A bunch of people are going to make trillions of
> > dollars selling hope to a doomed civilization. The
> > only hope is to fix the basis of the problem, not
> to
> > apply band aids. The real basis of the problem is
> > that we live by the doctrine that humanity has
> > Dominion over the Earth. The Earth exists to
> > satisfy any desire the human race can conceive,
> > regardless of the cost to our Earth Mother. 
> > Anything we can invent to increase our comfort and
> > decrease our sweat equity in this lifetime is
> > totally justified. WRONG AGAIN DUCKY!!!!! You can
> > only live outside of the Natural Laws of Earth for
> a
> > finite drop of time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We could have super insulated every building 
> > in the U.S.A. for the cost of the Iraq War 
> > and told the oil companies to shove it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What are the two biggest drugs in America??
> > 
> > Electricity and Gasoline.
> > 
> > We will do absolutely anything to keep our fix: Go
> > to war, Drop nuclear bombs, Cause a climatic
> change
> 
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