I use TCAT several times/week to work @ CU for free. It's terrific & a very nice privilege. Other times I bike. I'm down to driving less than once/week to work. Aiming for zero use to work and looking into an electric bike to get around town except when with others.
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You've got to give TCAT a try ( http://www.tcatbus.com/ ) - it is really > great!! Check out http://www.tcatbus.com/passfares.php for special deals > on youth fares. Also, you can now travel anywhere in the TCAT route for just > $.50 during off-peak times. Also, using TCAT will teach your children > lessons in self-sufficiency. > > If you want to just use a car (or pickup) occasionally, check out > http://ithacacarshare.org/ . > > Also try combining bike/bus modes - this greatly extends your range on a > bike (or can at least help you up the hill). > > Some more ideas: > Carpool or borrow a car > Plan ahead so that you can combine trips together > Give youself more time so that you can walk or use a bike (a 15 minute walk > with the family is probably nicer than a 5 minute drive) > Revise your shopping habits - for example, if you use a car, buy a lot of > groceries so that you can make fewer trips ... if you use a bike, go grocery > shopping more often but carry less. > > Finally, embrace the challence to see how efficiently you can travel. > > Take care, > Kent > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, marlo capoccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: marlo capoccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [SustainableTompkins] practical ideas for getting around town > To: "Sustainable Tompkins County listserv" < > [email protected]> > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:00 AM > > hi andy and all, > i haven't been following this conversation, but read what andy said > and have been thinking about these things myself. i have tended to > ask more practical than philosophical questions here, so i hope > you'll indulge me again with another set of questions for immediate > application relating to andy's post. > > any suggestions for moving a family around town? while we do walk > and bike a lot, it isn't always workable. > > what about when you have to go out of town? again, the family is an > issue- as is time. with three boys and two working parents, we often > have to get places fast. > > to finish with, we go through bursts of thinking about how to save > energy at home and would love to hear more thoughts about home energy > use. > > thanks very much, > marlo > > > > > On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Andy Goodell wrote: > > > The problem is that we are relying on concentrated forms of energy > > - whether > > is it coal or gasoline - that both pollute, both cause > > environmental issues, > > and neither of which can ever be used sustainably. Cars will never > > be an > > ultimate solution to any energy problem. Electric cars scare me > > too, not > > just because they potentially pollute more than gas, but because if a > > significant portion of this country's cars are electric, the energy > > has to > > come from somewhere. Plus, we would need to manufacture the > > batteries to > > store all of that energy. Sure, using power plants at night is a > > good idea, > > but if we are building more power plants and batteries because of > > electric > > cars, than we are not helping the situation at all. > > > > Innovations in energy efficiency are much more important than the > > source. > > Want to save gas? Stop driving so much. Want to save coal? Stop > > wasting so > > much electricity. There are so many options out there, and > > Americans are so > > hesitant to try them unless it fits our comfortable way of life, > > while most > > of the world uses far less and suffers from the problems created here. > > > > I specifically chose to live in a place that I knew I would easily > > get along > > without owning a car. I get everywhere by bike except when I have > > been lazy > > and use the moped, which is about $2 of gas per month with my > > current usage. > > Even if the 300mpg plug-in-option car like the Atpera were > > available in NY, > > I would not buy it. I have absolutely no desire for more efficient > > cars, in > > fact I would love to see them disappear altogether. What I want to > > see is a > > community, a whole-system approach, and a way of life that does not > > require > > owning an expensive, energy wasting, polluting vehicle. Whether it > > is coal > > or gasoline, they are both heading nowhere near the goal of > > reducing our > > consumption. > > > > -Andy > > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Tony Del Plato > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> I was taken aback by the this thought and wondered if anyone on > >> the TC > >> Sustainability list has a take on whether a Prius, if plugged in to > >> re-charge its battery, could indirectly pollute more than and is less > >> efficient than a gasoline fueled car. The article below sounds > >> compelling > >> in > >> light of the coal industry trying to get into the transportation > >> market. > >> Tony Del Plato > >> > >> http://www.betterworldclub.com/articles/ > >> DC_Case_Against_Electric_Car.htm > >> > >> -- > >> > >> "Justice is what love looks like in public." > >> ~ Dr. Cornel West > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> "Justice is what love looks like in public." > >> ~ Dr. Cornel West > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County > >> area, > >> please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ > >> > >> RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins > >> free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Andy Goodell > > www.IthacaCarshare.org > > 607-277-3210 > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County > > area, please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ > > > > RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: > > [email protected] > > http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins > > free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org > > Marlo Capoccia > Garden Gate > www.gardengatedelivery.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, > please > visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ > > RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: > [email protected] > http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins > free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, > please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ > > RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: > [email protected] > http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins > free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org > -- "Justice is what love looks like in public." ~ Dr. Cornel West _______________________________________________ For more information about sustainability in the Tompkins County area, please visit: http://www.sustainabletompkins.org/ RSS, archives, subscription & listserv information for: [email protected] http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainabletompkins free hosting by http://www.mutualaid.org
