> Any other questions?

Nope.  Thanks for your willingness to respond.

Jon

George Frantz wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8/14/08, Jon Bosak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> How do you propose to implement your two billion dollar plan
> for Ithaca given the strong likelihood that financial, energy, and
> material resources will dramatically decrease over the rest of the
> century?
> 
>  
> It's not a plan.  Iit's one person's vision for addressing the fact that we 
> as a society are using up the worlds' resources at a rate of 6-7 times the 
> rate that is generally recognized as being environmentally, socially and 
> economically sustainable.  Given the strong likelihood that financial, 
> energy, and material resources will dramatically decrease over the rest of 
> the century, as you point out, how can we afford to go on the way we are 
> going? 
>  
> You can take it or leave it.  I frankly care less one way or another.
>  
> I have been implementing it on a personal level for almost two decades.  I 
> live in a smaller than average older home in the city within easy walking, 
> bus or bicycle distance of  90 percent of my destinations, a home that I have 
> modernized to meet the housing needs of a contemporary 4-person household, 
> utilizing in the process building materials recycled from the house itself as 
> well as a dozen different other sources, and in the process making it energy 
> efficient and soundproof against the 20,000-plus cars and trucks that pass it 
> in a given day.  
>  
> This fall if things fall into place I will further implement the plan with 
> what may be the first retrofitting of an older home in the city to convert to 
> geothermal.  I'm not doing it because it's going to save me any money,  but 
> because it's the environmentally responsible thing to do.
>  
> The budgets of Tompkins County and the Ithaca City School District will 
> together amount to over $2 billion over just the next decade, anyway.  Why 
> not divert some of that expense to investment in a more compact sustainable 
> city?  
>  
> Rather than question the investment needed to convert Ithaca to a more 
> sustainable city I think the more pertinent questions you should be asking 
> are more along the lines of:  1) how all those commuters I referenced in my 
> previous post will be able to afford the nearly $300 million they will be 
> shelling out to Big Oil and Big Auto over the next decade; or 2) how they are 
> going to be able to afford to maintain their existing homes as all those 
> modern building materials with 15-20 year lifespans start to fail; or 3) how 
> are our municipal governments going to be able to maintain close to 200 miles 
> of streets and roads, and other services and infrastructure required to 
> support the existing suburban sprawl given, as you've said, the strong 
> likelihood that financial, energy, and material resources will dramatically 
> decrease over the rest of the century.
>  
> Finally, it's not my plan to implement anyway.  I don't live in the Town of 
> Ulysses, or the Town of Ithaca, or the Town of Dryden, or the Town of 
> Caroline, or the Town of Lansing, or the Town of Enfield, or the Town of 
> Newfield, or the Town of Danby, or the Town of Groton, or the villages of 
> Trumansburg, Lansing, Cayuga Heights, Groton, Newfield or Dryden, or in 
> Seneca County, Schuyler County, Tioga County, Chemung County, Cortland County 
> or Cayuga County.  It's their communities, so I'll let them decide whether 
> they are serious about living in a sustainable society or not.
>  
> Any other questions?
>  
>  
> George Frantz
>  
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