I agree with Gail that there are factors besides energy use and  
upfront costs.

I also appreciate this discussion because I can't make it to the  
workshop and I am considering putting in a tankless WH.

I already have a pretty efficient domestic hot water system (indirect  
coil off a Munchkin boiler used for baseboard heat). It never runs  
out, with 4 apartments (and 4 baths, 4 kitchens).  BUT my apartment  
used to be the summer kitchen, and it is a wing over an unheated crawl  
space and waiting for HOT water wastes a lot of water. And my well ran  
dry last month for the first time EVER While there may have been a  
minor fixable cause,  I worry in general about aquifers receiving less  
recharge from rainfall and snow melt due to changed weather patterns  
(caused by global warming). So water conservation is another factor,  
and one that may well become more important in the near future.

I think putting a tankless in "the West Wing" won't save much energy  
over the current arrangement, and I'm sure it won't save me much--if  
any--money (in terms of paying for itself), but I know it will save me  
a lot of water.  If I can afford one in the first place.

Margaret

On Nov 18, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Gail Blake wrote:

> At 10:23 PM 11/17/2008, you wrote:
>
>> ... The higher the number of people in your home (and presumably
>> the more people are using up the hot water), the less the on-demand
>> heater will save you because you aren't keeping water hot 24/7 for
>> only an occasional use.
>
> We have found that another plus to our on-demand water heater is that
> we can have more people using hot water and not run out. We recently
> more than doubled the number of people in our house and yet don't
> have to be strategic about showers and dish washing as we would with
> a tank water heater. Any appliance purchase is a multuidimensional
> decision and this definitely pushes the on-demand into the "worth it"
> column. Energy use and up-front cost are only two of the parameters.
>
> Gail
>
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