At 06:58 AM 2/25/09 -0800, you wrote:

"People could certainly begin lobbying for change now, but I think that the 
prospects of change would be much better if something beyond an abstract 
idea were presented.  Otherwise residents and officials will panic and kill 
the idea outright, or send it off into the bureaucracy or a committee for 
months of further study and discussion.

Presenting the Town Board and Common Council with draft regulations to 
respond to however will likely provide immediate answers to many of the 
questions that will be raised, help short circuit bureaucratic attempts to 
stifle the idea and possible cut months off the process."

This has been my experience. If you want government to do something, it is 
wise to make it as easy as possible. Want a resolution for or against 
something? Propose a text. I think George's proposal of presenting a draft 
ordinance that already reflects public input into its creation and the 
result of research on what is best practice around the country would be 
hugely helpful in getting this proposal considered.

Have I made this point before? Guess I must think it's important.

Joel



>On Wed, 2/25/09, ChrisJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>....It looks like this subject has been discussed on this list & I better look
>into the archives to get up to speed. I would love to meet others who want to
>raise a flock of chickens in Ithaca (city & town).   I want to do this
>legally - no stealth chicken keeping here.
>
>Chris
>
>
>I blieve that both the Town and CIty zoning regulations need to be revised.
>
>I can draft up zoning language for the both the Town and City to consider 
>and distributed it to the list for review and comment, but I would not be 
>able to get to it until April or May.
>
>People could certainly begin lobbying for change now, but I think that the 
>propsects of change would be much better if something beyond an abstract 
>idea were presented.  Otherwise residents and officials will panic and 
>kill the idea outright, or send it off into the bureacracy or a committee 
>for months of further study and discussion.
>
>Presenting the Town Board and Common Council with draft regulations to 
>respond to however will likely provide immediate answers to many of the 
>questions that will be raised, help short circuit bureacratic attempts to 
>stifle the idea and possible cut months off the process.
>
>Meanwhile keep those chickens (and ducks, geese and emus) quiet and under 
>cover.
>
>George Frantz
>
>--- On Wed, 2/25/09, ChrisJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>From: ChrisJ <[email protected]>
>Subject: [SustainableTompkins] Backyard Chickens - Town of Ithaca
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:40 AM
>
>From: Jon Bosak <[email protected]>
>
> >>James Hogg wrote:
>  >> I am hopeful about the cities allowing chickens.
>  >>OK City of Ithaca and Town of Ithaca lets do it too.
>
> >Raising chickens is already perfectly legal in many parts of the
> >Town of Ithaca.  The City is a different matter.
>
>Hi,
>I'm new to this mailing list and joined because I've wanted to raise a
>small flock (3-4) of chickens in my backyard for several years.  We own a 
>house
>in NE Ithaca (Salem Drive, .45 acres) and it is zoned Medium Density
>Residential.  According to the online TOI zoning rules, chickens can only be
>kept on Agricultural & Low Density Residential properties (i.e. the
>decidedly country part of the Town of Ithaca).  I don't think chicken
>keeping in those zones fit the concept of city/town backyard chickens.  So 
>is my
>info out of date?  Can we raise chickens in the "Town" part of the
>Town of Ithaca?
>
>It looks like this subject has been discussed on this list & I better look
>into the archives to get up to speed. I would love to meet others who want to
>raise a flock of chickens in Ithaca (city & town).   I want to do this
>legally - no stealth chicken keeping here.
>
>Chris
>
>
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