Eric,

I appreciate your compliment, and, at the same time, want to clarify where I'm coming from. You said, "...it does not seem that you read George's post." I not only read George's post, I read it twice. So it wasn't a lack of attention on my part. It was a conscious disagreement with his position. As I see it, there IS a "morally, environmentally sustainable justifiable position with respect to the issue." It's to protect the environment and find safer, more sustainable ways to source energy than violent and precarious hydrofracking.

Likewise, I disagree with your assessment of this thread: "The debate seems to not be about a diverse community that governs itself (as impossible as that may be). The debate seems to be about winning control in a particular way, with parties on both extremes being willing to say almost anything to win." Neither George nor I have demonstrated that we are "willing to say almost anything to win." (Nor did I hear any of that from the protesters last night.) We are simply being frank, without slamming each other in a personal way. Democracy requires this kind of open engagement and willingness to disagree. The more we can tolerate conversations with those who differ from us, the better off we'll be. Unfortunately, the usual pattern is for humans to shy away from disagreement. I think it's more courageous to voice our differences as they arise, especially for something as important as this. Moreover, unlike you, I think this debate IS about how a diverse community governs itself. I'm not trying to control anybody, and I don't think it's "extreme" for any of us to try to defend our land against unprecedented pollution.

Jan Quarles

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Jan,

I applaud all of your efforts, and the self-sacrifice you and your family
are making for the integrity of your position.

From reading your post, though, it does not seem that you read George's
post.  What I take from his post is that there is no single morally,
environmentally sustainable justifiable position with respect to the issue.

I imagine other people will make different choices than you would or than I
would that they believe, based on evidence that they find  credible.
Those positions may and do differ dramatically from either of  ours.

We will all be neighbors, living with the consequences, for decades to
come, whether drilling does or does not proceed, whether lots or little.

The debate seems to not be about a diverse community that governs itself
(as impossible as that may be).  The debate seems to be about winning
control in a particular way, with parties on both extremes being willing to say
almost anything to win.

In the middle of such conflict, we lose sight of how to govern ourselves,
as a community.

Eric

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