Hi all: I just received this from a friend at Onondaga about a brine disposal/injection well near the Village of Cayuga. If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know. According to one person in the conversation below, the NY DEC is NOT doing their job. For those of you who know Joe Health, he has been the attorney for the Onondaga Nation for years. Thanks Tony Del Plato Interlaken
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm forwarding this to you Tony, so you'll hear about this. Perhaps you > know of it already. Do what you can. Freida > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "Onondaga Communications Office" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, "Jake" <[email protected]>,"Powless, Evelyn" < > [email protected]>, "Lyons, Kent" <[email protected]>,< > [email protected]>, "Gonyea, Wendy" <[email protected]>,"Gonyea, > Anthony" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,"Honyoust, Mary" < > [email protected]> > Subject: Fw: Questions for Bill Kappel Feb. 1 Injection Well - Cayuga > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:18:19 +0000 > > > From Joe Heath. > Onondaga Nation Communications Office > 102 W. Conklin Ave > Nedrow, N.Y. 13120 > phone: 315.492.1922. > email: [email protected] > FAX: 315.469.4717 > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Joe Heath, Esq <[email protected]> > *To:* ugiefl...@earthlink. net <ugiefl...@earthlink.+net> ; > cayugaconn...@netzero. > com <cayugaconn...@netzero.+com> ; Dave Arquette <[email protected]> ; > Lindsay > Speer <[email protected]> ; Thane Joyal <[email protected]> > *Cc:* jshenand...@earthlink. com <jshenand...@earthlink.+com> ; > ononc...@verizon. > net <ononc...@verizon.+net> ; Wendy Gonyea <[email protected]> ; kent > lyons <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2010 8:00 AM > *Subject:* Fw: Questions for Bill Kappel Feb. 1 Injection Well - Cayuga > > good morning everyone, this e-mail from the Cortland gas group reveals a > brine disposal well near Cayuga lake. I will try to look into this further > but won't be at a desk much at all today. > > peace, > > joe > ------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mary Beilby <[email protected]> > *To:* Bob Applegate <[email protected]> ; Jim > Weiss<[email protected]>; Joe > Heath, Esq <[email protected]> ; Judith Hope-Klessig<[email protected]>; > Mary > Beilby <[email protected]> ; Patrizia Sione <[email protected]> ; Paul > Yaman <[email protected]> ; Sheila Cohen <[email protected]> ; Suzanne > [email protected] <[email protected]> ; > [email protected] ; Shawn Smith <[email protected]> ; > Craig > Little <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:34 PM > *Subject:* Questions for Bill Kappel Feb. 1 Injection Well - Cayuga > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Helen Slottje <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:56 PM > Subject: [NYGCG] Injection Well - Cayuga > To: "[email protected]" < > [email protected]>, Bill Hecht < > [email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Rachel > Treichler <[email protected]>, Lisa Wright <[email protected]>, > Bob Howarth <[email protected]> > > > Did anyone know about the disposal well in Cayuga? I didn't. (I did know > about the fault running down the middle of the lake from the UIC permit - I > just don't know if that is close enough to be considered "too close" for > UIC > purposes....) > Helen > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Bill Hecht <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:41:36 -0500 > To: Helen Slottje <[email protected]> > Cc: William M Kappel <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Geology Question - Injection Wells > > Just the other day I checked with Tony Sutherland who manages the old > Miller Brewing gas field just west of Auburn and he said that the brine > disposal well just east of the Village of Cayuga is in operation. > He thought that Dave Raucher is hauling in wastewater from the souther > tier. Thus we have an active brine disposal well at the north end of > Cayuga Lake. > > I would also like to point out that because the DEC seems never to do a > literature search, that they do not know of the two vertical faults in > Cayuga. This brine disposal well is, or is in, close proximity to these > faults. > That is why I am insistent that DEC PRIOR to issuing a drilling permit > should ask for all geological, geophysical, and geological reports that > you know darn well these companies have ALREADY put together. > I don't want excuses from DEC that they don't have the 'authority' to > ask for such things as seismic because they do and there is precedent > for asking for such confidential material. In my book there is no way > they can render an opinion or approval of a request to drill till such > time they have ALL THE DATA that the companies have and in the public > literature and then have assembled all this data in a 3D GIS system. > Why is NY DEC so far behind in technology? > > DEC does not do their homework. I would expect better from a Geology 101 > student. > This goes not just for DEC but for the consultants that they hire. I saw > this in the Cargill salt mine case and in the Auburn General Electric > TCE spill. Even when one leads them to the data they refuse to look. I > know this from personal experience. > > bill hecht > > Helen Slottje wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I have often heard that unlike the sands of Texas, this region is not > > well suited to injection wells. But I don¹t know why that is or what > > sort of testing would show that a particular area was suitable. What > > sorts of conditions are ³good² for injection wells? What conditions > > are ³bad²? In this area, what sort of a radius from a wellbore into > > Trenton Black River would an injection well expand to cover ‹ a 1/4 > > mile, 1/2 mile, 1 mile? How long could cement casing be expected to > > last under injection well conditions? Could the Trenton formation be > > expected to serve as both the receiving formation AND the > > overburden/sealing layer? > > Can either of you point me in the right direction? > > Thanks so much! > > Helen Slottje > > -- "And let there be no purpose in friendship save the deepening of the spirit. For love that seeks aught but the disclosure of its own mystery is not love but a net cast forth: and only the unprofitable is caught". Khalil Gibran in The Prophet -- The nonviolent approach does not immediately change the heart of the oppressor. It first does something to the hearts and souls of those committed to it. It gives them new self-respect; it calls up resources of strength and courage they did not know they had. 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