Agree almost completely. The foundation for all success is ubiquitous or native browser support. Period. Flash succeeds because it can run just about anywhere in anything.
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/alternates/ Without that type of broad based support, SVG may never get past its boutique usage stage. Applying the same logic, however, the same could become of (the vector graphics part of) XAML unless some type of multi-platform, multi-browser XAML graphics rendering engine is made available. An alternative path would be for SVG, or a subset of it, to be absorbed into XHTML, which might (somewhat) force the hand of anyone creating something browser-like to support SVG. Let's face it - all most of us really need is some relatively simple vector graphics rendered in our browsers. All of the exotic filters and transforms and some of the more esoterica in SVG are in the "nice to have" category. I'd be deliriously happy to have SVG Basic or even SVG Tiny supported natively by all major browsers. In hindsight, VML was pretty darn close to what was needed. It is a shame that the divergence occurred. I don't pretend to understand the politics or dynamics, but in any case, it suc%s for everyone involved. For now, we're sticking to SVG on the server-side for dashboarding applications, but I hope that can change in the future. - Rick -----Original Message----- From: Cor Hofman (SC :) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:07 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Adobe please distribute SVG Viewer ...MASSIVELY !!! Hi, I have been following the SVG discussions for a couple of years now (and an early adopter as well). However the cry out to Adobe for support on SVG is quite old. Far too old!!!! To them it is just another business case. They 've invested some money and they want to see ROI now. In other words they need to have a profitable business model (paying customers!). Aparently they have not. Another gossip is that SVG could compete with their PDF technology (which is currently profitable!). The fact that this discussion lingers on and on, without possitive feedback from the (historical) biggest investor (or any other company for that matter) says more then enough I think. Unless there is a significant (profitable) demand for this technology shortly, MS will set the standard once again (including embedding in IE). Have a look at all the early adopters developping SVG tooling. They are not to sure either, since they have hastened themselves to provide the MS flavor as well. And yes of course, there will always be a niche market... Regards, Cor Hofman. ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/