Robert, > I don't think it's Flash that SVG is really going to go head > to head against but XAML. I'm guessing that people are going > to start forming up around either new MS stuff or W3C stuff > for their RIA (Rich Internet Applications - I didn't invent > it, I'm just using it because we all know what it is) development. > > It's just an idea I've had floating around since I started > noticing the pieces that you'd need to compete against MS > with open source (or just non-MS) tools. > > SVG is not the entirety of that suite, but it's one important part.
I agree. In the space of declarative languages for writing programs, my view is that developers will either use XAML (which looks great, as it happens) because they're happy with MS products and they know they'll get great tools, or they will use open standards. Or perhaps we should rephrase that...they would *like* to use open standards, but the problem at the moment is that we're not seeing a great case being made for the 'standards stack'--a combination of XHTML, XForms, SVG, XML Events, XBL, and so on. Yet this combination could easily match XAML. As a way of trying to talk about this 'stack' of standard languages I've started to call the *combined* language xH. It's a terrible name, I know, but I often feel the need for something that is an umbrella term that doesn't put each of the languages in a silo. I've blogged on a few of these things...they may or may not be of interest ;) On XAML: <http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2004/08/long-haul-to-longhorn.html> On XForms being a programming language: <http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2004/12/easier-than-c-more-powerful-than- xul.html> On using XForms and SVG together: <http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2005/11/xforms-flickrbar-and-flickr-strip s.html> On producing a 'standards-based virtual machine': <http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/papers/webapps-workshop-standards- based-vm.pdf> Regards, Mark Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/ w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/ Download our XForms processor from http://www.formsPlayer.com/ ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
