Hi, Doug:

Thanks a lot for your help.  The page looks much nicer with the modification.  

Sincerely,
Fulio Pen

Doug Schepers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                                  Hi, 
Fulio-
 
 Indeed, this is pretty simple (though not as simple as possible).  Take a
 look at my revision of your file:
 
 http://svg-whiz.com/svg/linguistics/fuliopen/ideograph.svg
 
 You'll see that I added another marker that faced the other direction, and
 referenced that on the same line using the 'marker-start' attribute.  This
 preserves the semantics of the document and makes it more easily maintained
 (facts which you as a linguist and an author, respectively, should
 appreciate).
 
 On the subject of semantics, I also played with the structure of your file,
 turning your comments into the contents of 'title' elements and grouping
 related shapes.  This makes the document a little more "object-oriented"
 (again, easier to maintain and extend), and more accessible (a screen reader
 can now describe your document to a blind person with some degree of
 fidelity).
 
 I also repositioned the text labels so that they are centered on the same
 point as the center of the associated circles.  This is a handy little
 trick. 
 
 -----------------------
 A speculative note on marker enhancement: I think it would be nice if
 markers had an additional value for the 'orient' attribute... it would be in
 addition to "auto" and "<angle>", and would tell the UA to orient the marker
 differently depending on what its role is.  So, "auto-start" (or whatever)
 would indicate that this marker is facing the proper direction for the
 'marker-start' attribute, and that if it is used for the 'marker-end'
 attribute it should be reversed... or maybe this should be a new attribute
 on the marker element, 'role'.  Anyway, just a thought.  Another nice thing
 would be for the marker to be able to take the stroke or the fill from the
 "host" element's stroke, so I could use the same marker for each of 5
 differently-colored lines, and it would match the color of each. 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Regards-
 Doug
  
 
 Fulio Pen wrote:
 | 
 | Hello, 
 | 
 | Please open the following page:
 | 
 | http://www.pinyinology.com/ontology/ideograph.svg
 | 
 | Also please look at the line between the ideograph circle and 
 | sound circle in the page.  There is now an arrow at the upper 
 | end of the line, pointing upward to the ideograph circle.  
 | 
 | I need to add an arrow at the lower end of the line, pointing 
 | downward to the sound circle.  In other words, there will be 
 | two arrows on this line, one at each end, pointing to 
 | opposite directions. 
 | 
 | The two arrows will be in exactly same shape and size.  I 
 | know this is a very simple job for professionals, but not for me.  
 | 
 | Thanks a lot for your help.
 | 
 | Fulio Pen
 
 
     
                       

                
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