Erik, your apt description reminds me of tuning "draggable links" that is scripting whether the user intends to drag or click. a problem not as yet resolved afaik
cheers Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet On 25 Sep 2007, at 09:27, Erik Dahlström wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:17:49 +0200, Jeff Schiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > > Painter's Model: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/render.html#PaintersModel > > I'm not sure, but I think you missed the key aspect here - think of > the icons on a "carousel" that we're looking at on a horizontal > elevation. This problem has to do with rendering order more than > highlight and event handlers (though that is another interesting > topic). > > Let's say you have 3 icons on the carousel - as it spins, icon 1 > (which is to the left of center) and icon 3 (which is to the right) > are behind icon 2 (which is in front and center). As the carousel > spins clockwise, icon 3 moves to the center and in front (i.e. "on > top") of the others, while icon 2 is now to the left of center and > behind icon 3. > > Do you see what I mean by z-order? Because the rendering order and > overlapping is defined by the order in which the elements appear in > the DOM, it seems that you couldn't declaratively do the animation > (you'd have to have script to rearrange the nodes as the icons rotate > - probably using two halves of the carousel circle as separate > rendering groups with nodes being popped and pushed appropriately). Jeff, Have you tried a solution that uses <use> elements for keeping the z- order the way you want it? Simple example: <rect id="a"> <set attributeName="xlink:href" to="#a" begin="mouseover" xlink:href="#top"/> </rect> <rect id="b"> <set attributeName="xlink:href" to="#b" begin="mouseover" xlink:href="#top"/> </rect> <rect id="c"> <set attributeName="xlink:href" to="#c" begin="mouseover" xlink:href="#top"/> </rect> <use id="top" xlink:href="#a"/> I have been trying to find good solutions to the z-order problem as well, moving elements around in the tree and expecting mouse events to cooperate is quite hard in my experience. That is, if I want something to move to front when I mouseover it, the only way I've found reliable is to use scripting, because the instant I move an element to the top I get another mouse event on whatever was under it (because moving it means take it out of the tree, then inserting it somewhere else), and that makes the element that I wanted to have focus lose it. So, I have to "block events" until everything is in place. Cheers /Erik -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
