Francis Hemsher wrote: >OK, show me a SMIL animation. I'll present comparable JavaScript that will do the same, but better.
Okay, give these four a try: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/SVGOpen2010/replicate.htm (Opera, Chrome, Firefox, or IE/ASV) http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/tribraids9.svg (Firefox, Opera, or IE/ASV ) http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/svg/swatch3.svg (Firefox, Opera or IE/ASV ) http://granite.sru.edu/~ddailey/svg/animoval88.svg (Opera, IE/ASV or Chrome ) Better yet, rather than spend the energy doing these (the last one in particular will be fun), why not devote similar energies into enhancing either FakeSMIL or SMILScript (or helping to convince our friends at Microsoft to do so), so that authors who dont want to spend the 7x investment of time writing JavaScript instead of SMIL wont have to. It is not just that SMIL is substantially easier to write (which translates into precious programmer time), but that the methods are tractable to a far larger group of individuals, like artists and animators who may not be programmers. It is also available to perhaps a few hundred million mobile devices that support SMIL but not script. Heck, with the reasoning that web developers should all just use programming instead of declarative methods, then SVG should be phased out in favor of HTML5:canvas. HTML, SMIL, SVG and replicate all share the philosophy that productivity is enhanced by letting people tell machines what they want to be done and letting the software figure out how to do it. Thus far, this strategy seems to have worked for HTML and SVG now that all major browsers (minus one) finally handle most SMIL[1] (until a year or two ago it required either a plugin or Opera to handle most SMIL) I hope well start seeing SMIL proliferate. All the more so once it starts permeating Wikipedia. On the other hand, I dont believe that all effects available to the programmer can be done with the current SVG SMIL spec [2]. I do retain some perhaps naive optimism that SVG SMIL will continue some degree of steady growth within SVG 2.0, including such about a dozen things on the SVG Working Groups agenda for consideration [3]. And although some people from the WHATWG camp seem to have lost confidence in the W3Cs decision making process, I really dont believe that the Working Group would have solicited public feedback on SVG 2, if decisions on what it would look like had already been made in a smoke filled room. Regards, David [1]The examples above are not representative of most SMIL, being something rather like torture tests, and not working in all five major implementations (Chrome, Safari, Opera, Firefox and ASV) . They might be considered as Acid tests, except that the browser manufacturers seem to have monopolized control of those a curious development ¿que no? [2] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html#why_script [3] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/SVG2_Requirements_Mailing_List_Feedba ck [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ----Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
