On 12/16/2016 14:07, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-12-16 at 20:31 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 01:44:51AM +0000, Conrad E. Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>> Author: cem
>>> Date: Fri Dec 16 01:44:50 2016
>>> New Revision: 310138
>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/310138
>>>
>>> Log:
>>>   vfprintf(3): Add support for kernel %b format
>>>   
>>>   This is a direct port of the kernel %b format.
>>>   
>>>   I'm unclear on if (more) non-portable printf extensions will be a
>>>   problem. I think it's desirable to have userspace formats include
>>> all
>>>   kernel formats, but there may be competing goals I'm not aware
>>> of.
>>>   
>>>   Reviewed by:      no one, unfortunately
>>>   Sponsored by:     Dell EMC Isilon
>>>   Differential Revision:    https://reviews.freebsd.org/D8426
>>>
>> I really don't think it is a good idea, if used in userland it would
>> be make
>> more of our code difficult to port elsewhere.
>>
>> Other than that, it makes more difficult to use vanilla gcc with out
>> userland.
>> and it is adding more complexity to be able to build freebsd from a
>> non freebsd
>> system which some people are working on.
>>
>> Personnaly I would prefer to see those extensions removed from the
>> kernel rather
>> than see them available in userland.
>>
>> Can't we use simple helper function instead?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bapt
> 
> I'll add a big +1 for the concept of eliminating the extensions from
> the kernel instead of extending them to userland.  People ask why
> freebsd can't be built using standard tools on foreign build hosts, and
> these non-standard extensions are part of the reason why.

I strongly agree.  Thanks for mentioning snprintb, Dimitry; I hadn't seen that 
one.

Eric
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