> On 7/5/18 4:17 PM, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > 06.07.2018 1:21, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> Yes, this is a change though I find it the logical outcome of the original > >> change > >> to move away from MODULES_WITH_WORLD. And to be clear, Matt certainly only > >> intended to use MODULE_TIED in a few places, but I think tagging all those > >> places will be cumbersome and tedious compared to just doing it in this > >> way. I > >> think this will also tie into something I proposed earlier in a commit > >> reply and > >> that I also brought up at BSDCan which is that I think that kernel modules > >> in > >> ports should install their sources and build glue to some location we > >> choose > >> (e.g. /usr/local/sys/modules/<foo>) and that we should support a variable > >> folks > >> can set in their kernel config file similar to MODULES_OVERRIDE that is a > >> list > >> of local modules to recompile and install into /boot/kernel along with > >> other > >> modules (and that these recompiled modules would be TIED). The binary > >> module > >> from the package would still be present in /boot/modules, but the tied > >> module > >> in /boot/kernel would be preferred and used instead when it exists (our > >> existing > >> module_path already does this last part). This would replace the existing > >> PORTS_MODULES but in a way that is more graceful and works with packages, > >> not > >> just ports IMO. > > > > I'm not sure I understand the topic quite right, but please do not drop > > MODULES_WITH_WORLD support at it allows us to quickly rebuild the kernel > > in case of slight changes of its config file not changing ABI and/or > > similar source changes without HUGE modules compilation overhead. > > This would not drop it, but it would mean that you can't necessarily kldload > /boot/kernel.GENERIC/foo.ko while running some other kernel.
Please do not break that! If any module should continue to load with a custom kernel it should be the ones built with GENERIC, as long as the source code/KABI is unchanged why am I not being allowed to load this module? > > Also, we should not use /usr/local/sys/modules/<foo> as /usr/local > > can be inaccessible for the loader. Better use /boot/modules/local or > > /boot/local > > as /boot is guaranteed to be accessible. > > You misunderstand. /usr/local/sys/modules would hold module sources so that > they can be recompiled when building a kernel without having to rebuild the > package or reinstall the package. Binary modules would continue to be > installed in /boot/modules. I like this part of it, as we discussed at BSDCan, this would in effect fix the VirtualBox, kmod-next, and nvidia module issues we currently face in stable/11. > John Baldwin -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
