On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Garrett Cooper <yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Alfred Perlstein <alf...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On 7/7/13 2:01 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>> Why the magic number 12?
>>
>> Numbers higher seem to result in worse performance as reported by some 
>> members of my team.
>
> The suggestion is good in spirit, but this doesn't justify the reasoning for 
> this recommendation for all cases.
>
> Please revert this change and add a doc page or notes to the dev handbook 
> discussing what the empirical process and results were for determining this 
> value so people can come up with their own values that work best with their 
> hardware and software config. This recommendation is prone to bitrot like 
> some of the recommendations in tuning(7).
>
> Misinformation is sometimes more harmful than no information.

I spoke with Alfred over the phone and did some more careful thought
about this and I'm rescinding this request.

Alfred did a good job at documenting how JFLAG works (it was
previously undocumented). My concern over -j12 was performance
related, and after giving things more careful thought it actually
makes sense why -j12 was chosen because Westmere and newer processors
have issues with NUMA and cache locality between multiple processor
packages as we've seen non-empirically and empirically at Isilon with
FreeBSD 7 and 10 (it's a known issue that jeffr@ and jhb@ are aware
of).

I'll come up with a concise patch that does what Alfred was trying to
achieve and have Alfred review it.

Thanks (and thank you Alfred for the contribution!!!)!
-Garrett
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