> On Dec 21, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Brent Royal-Gordon <br...@architechies.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Also, I don’t think it generates good API signatures. Take this example:
>> 
>> struct S {
>>      let s: String
>>      let i: Int
>> 
>>      // user declares:
>>      memberwise init() {}
>>      // compiler synthesizes:
>>      init(s: String, i: Int) {
>>              self.s = s
>>              self.i = i
>>      }
>> }
>> 
>> That is not a very descriptive API.
> 
> Well, yeah. This is a toy example. Do you often write APIs with properties 
> like `s` and `i`? Or, for that matter, structs named `S`?

I often write APIs where the internal member’s name is not what I want to use 
as the label for the public API. 


>> It’s also not necessarily the case that your internal names are what you 
>> want exposed.
> 
> The proposal already states that a memberwise initializer only includes 
> parameters for properties that are at least as visible as the initializer 
> itself. So if you can see the `s` and `i` parameters, you can also see the 
> `s` and `i` properties. It's not going to expose anything that isn't already 
> visible.

This isn’t about access modifiers, it’s about the name chosen for internal 
variables vs. names chosen for API contracts.

-David

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