Yes, I agree. I think in the guidelines should be a recommendation for mutating methods are preferred, when nonmutating are preferred, and when to have both. If performance is a key goal of Swift, so much that it influences API design, then some details should be part of the guidelines also. Patrick
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 3:56 AM -0700, "David Rönnqvist" <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: By “the big three”, are you referring to only the naming of map, filter, and reduce? I would also like to see a formal proposal along these lines, and possibly more. I also feel that the `inPlace` suffix was very clear (most important) and very much liked that it made the immutable version the default (less important). It manages to describe the distinction between `union`/`unionInPlace` and `sort`/`sortInPlace` in the name itself. To me, the `ed`/`ing` difference is much more subtle and favors people who are familiar with English grammar. One can argue that `sort` is both imperative and functional, and that because of [either side] the default should be [mutable/immutable]. Both arguments are valid. - David On 15 Apr 2016, at 18:31, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Антон Жилин via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: I've already expressed these concerns, but nobody noticed, apparently. Here is it: I think current -ed/-ing convention is ugly. It breaks syntactic correctness, experience from other languages, mathematical notation and functional idioms. `InPlace` suffix was so far more correct in these terms. We can make anything a convention, but should we? I liked the proposal about new naming conventions, but overlooked this change. Many people will agree with me. This still can be reviewed until Swift 3. If so, I will create a proposal to correct "the big three" in this. What do you think? I would like to see a formal proposal along these lines. My other suggestions are here. -- E _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list swift-evolution@swift.org https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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