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LM
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> On Jun 27, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Joe Groff <jgr...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:00 AM, L. Mihalkovic <laurent.mihalko...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
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>> Regards
>> (From mobile)
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution 
>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Jordan Rose via swift-evolution 
>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [Proposal: 
>>>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0095-any-as-existential.md
>>>>  ]
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve gone on record before as against this syntax, although when I set out 
>>>> earlier today to record my usual rebuttal I found that it really was 
>>>> mostly a matter of taste. Yes, this looks weird to me:
>>>> 
>>>> let callback: (Data) -> NSCoding & NSCopying
>>>> 
>>>> but I’m sure the infix ‘->’ for functions looked weird to everyone the 
>>>> first time they saw it as well, and it really is pretty clear in argument 
>>>> position.
>>> 
>>> We could conceivably bracket the 'where' constraints somewhere. It's nice 
>>> not to have to punish the common case syntax. In my personal ideal vision 
>>> of the world, I'd like to see us support opening existentials via 
>>> path-dependent types (e.g., let a: Collection; let element: a.Element). If 
>>> we support them in decl-level 'where' clauses, we provide a nice, clean 
>>> syntax for complex generic relationships that doesn't require angle 
>>> brackets or per-existential where clauses at all, something like:
>>> 
>>>  func intersect(a: Collection, b: Collection) -> Collection
>>>      where a.Element == b.Element, b.Element == return.Element {
>>>  }
>>> 
>>> which doesn't completely define away the need for 'where' as part of 
>>> existential types, but would shrink it quite a bit.
>> 
>> For some reason it had not clicked until your 'path dependent type' 
>> reference how reminicent of (U+00B7) this is. I watched nada's 2014 
>> presentation again... but then it means intersection types would add a 
>> lot... you guys seem ok to add P&Q now, so why not take that opportunity to 
>> allow P|Q at the same time. Does it also mean that you might consider at 
>> some point expanding 'assoctype U'  into:  T where <:U , :>U  opening the 
>> door to lower/higher type bounds?
> 
> Let's not rathole on the P|Q thing. Disjunctions are difficult to make much 
> sense of in a parametric type system like ours; there are plenty of other 
> threads on this mailing list discussing it.

Already retracted the P|Q as bringing absolutely nothing required in the 
foreseeable future. Apologies again for not having the presence of mind to see 
it before clicking send.

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