I don't understand the suggestions for Slack. That would be a wildly inappropriate medium for long-form discussions that need to be visible to the wider community. Slack is a real-time chat platform, appropriate for immediate discussions between a small set of people. So, for example, you might use Slack when talking with your proposal co-author about polishing up the proposal you're writing together prior to submitting. But you certainly wouldn't use it to actually discuss the proposal idea with the wider community.
In any case, I'm firmly in the pro-mailing list camp. -Kevin Ballard On Tue, Aug 2, 2016, at 08:04 AM, Brad Hilton via swift-evolution wrote: > +1. I would love to see Swift Evolution on Slack or a forum, it would be so > much easier to manage. > > Brad > > > Branching... > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Chris Lattner via > > swift-evolution<swift-evolution@swift.org(mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org)>wrote: > > > On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Brandon > > > Knope<bkn...@me.com(mailto:bkn...@me.com)>wrote: > > > > > > > >Chris, has the core team discussed opening up a forum for discussing > > > >proposal implementations. > > > > > > > >Some of us aren't as skilled as the core team or other contributors but > > > >would like to learn. A forum is a much easier place for us to post for > > > >code help and to help others with their questions. I think this could > > > >help get more involved as it would be a more comfortable format for > > > >them. Think of how there are Apple Developer forums and not mailing > > > >lists for iOS betas etc. > > > > > > > >I am not saying moving swift-evo to forums *yet* but I believe a lot of > > > >the newer programmers are more comfortable with a forum format, > > > >especially when it comes to help and discussing code. > > > > > > > >Forums for contributors would: > > > >- be more familiar for a lot of the newer and not as experienced > > > >developers > > > >- be easier to search > > > >- be easier to moderate (not really a problem yet) > > > > > > Hi Brandon, > > > > > > Moving from email to a forum system has come up before, but they have > > > some disadvantages.One of major wins of email is that it is pervasive and > > > can be adapted into other forms.For example, if you haven’t seen it yet, > > > check out: > > > https://stylemac.com/hirundo/ > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > We've discussed forums on swift-evolution before. Maybe it's time for > > another go, with Swift 3 winding down. > > > > For context, prior discussions are on this > > thread:https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20151207/001537.html > > > > (-1 for mailman: it's hard for me to even properly find&link to all the > > prior discussion about mailing lists, because of how mailman's archive > > works...) > > > > > > News in the last few days is that Gmane is at least temporarily > > disappearing:https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/comment-page-1/#comment-13502 > > > > > > I'd just like to vote once again > > forDiscourse(http://www.discourse.org/faq/#what):-Excellent web > > interface(https://meta.discourse.org/), from the people who brought you > > Stack Overflow(built-in search, etc.) > > - Read via email if that's your thing: it has "mailing list mode" which > > includes 1-email-per-post, if that's your cup of tea > > -Reply via > > email(https://meta.discourse.org/t/replacing-mailing-lists-email-in/13099)if > > that's your thing > > - It'sopen source(https://github.com/discourse/discourse)itself > > - I believe it has ways of getting content as JSON and/or RSS, so I'd > > hardly say "can be adapted into other forms" is an exclusive feature of > > email. > > > > And, Discourse providesfree hosting for community-friendly open-source > > projects(http://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-community-friendly-github-projects/). > > Istrongly > > suspect(https://twitter.com/jtbandes/status/705886542309363712)Swift would > > qualify for this. > > > > > > There have been several people on this list arguing in favor of mailing > > lists — I encourage folks to go read the old thread for themselves. > > > > It's worth noting there are also plenty of voices that don't get heard on > > this list, because people just don't like using mailing lists. One > > example:https://twitter.com/pilky/status/755105431555608580_______________________________________________ > > swift-evolution mailing list > > swift-evolution@swift.org > > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list swift-evolution@swift.org https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
