on Thu Aug 11 2016, Douglas Gregor <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:36 AM, Haravikk via swift-evolution
>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> On 4 Aug 2016, at 03:19, Brent Royal-Gordon via swift-evolution
>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Manav Gabhawala via swift-evolution
>>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering why this would put any more of a burden on the runtime
>>>> than simple inheritance of protocols. The way this could be
>>>> implemented is to augment the ConformanceTable for nominal types by
>>>> looking up its protocol extension’s inheritance clauses. I can
>>>> definitely see this impacting compile time but I don’t see why runtime
>>>> performance will be any different than simple inheritance. Further,
>>>> cyclic chains can be detected and broken (compiler error) during the
>>>> second pass of semantic analysis.
>>>
>>> My understanding—which may be incorrect, by the way—is that the
>>> issue is mainly with protocol extensions adding conformances, not
>>> specifically with those conformances being conditional, and that it
>>> specifically has to do with `is` and `as?` checks across module
>>> boundaries.
>>>
>>> Suppose you have these declarations in module M:
>>>
>>> public protocol AProtocol {…}
>>> public protocol BProtocol: AProtocol {…}
>>> public protocol CProtocol {…}
>>>
>>> // Public or otherwise doesn't matter here.
>>> public struct Foo: BProtocol {…}
>>>
>>> Foo essentially has a flat list of the protocols it conforms to attached to
>>> it. Notionally, you can think of that list as looking like:
>>>
>>> Foo.self.conformsTo = [BProtocol.self, AProtocol.self]
>>>
>>> And when you write `foo is CProtocol`, that eventually translates into:
>>>
>>> foo.dynamicType.conformsTo.contains(CProtocol.self)
>>>
>>> For a `Foo`, since the `conformsTo` list doesn't include `CProtocol.self`,
>>> it returns `false`.
>>>
>>> Now imagine that you write a new module, N, and in it you say:
>>>
>>> extension Foo: CProtocol {…}
>>>
>>> You have now retroactively conformed `Foo` to `CProtocol`. Swift
>>> needs to reach into module M and add `CProtocol.self` to the
>>> `Foo.self.conformsTo` list. This is perfectly doable for a concrete
>>> type—it's one flat list, after all.
>>>
>>> Instead, though, imagine that module N extended `AProtocol` to add a
>>> conformance:
>>>
>>> extension AProtocol: CProtocol {…}
>>>
>>> There are two ways to handle this. One is to find all types
>>> conforming to `AProtocol`, recursively, and add `CProtocol.self` to
>>> their conformance list. The other is to scrap the flat list of
>>> conformances and instead make `is` and `as?` recursively search
>>> each protocol. Either way, you have replaced a fast, flat operation
>>> with a slow, recursive one.
>>>
>>> Conditional conformance adds another wrinkle to this, of course—you
>>> must not only recursively search the list, but also evaluate the
>>> condition to see if it applies in this case. But the general
>>> problem of having to replace a fast search with a slow search
>>> applies either way.
>>
>> Great explanation! This switch from flat to recursively searched
>> though seems like it would only occur when the extension is in an
>> external module though; for internal modules would it not still be
>> possible to determine the flat list for each type? In that case
>> extending a type from another module could be either disallowed, or
>> produce a warning to indicate the performance implication?
>>
>> The feature would still be very useful even just for internal use
>> after all. Also it seems useful on a relatively small number of
>> types, and the number of external modules that need/want to do this
>> must narrow that even further, so external extensions may be quite
>> niche, i.e- not worth losing the feature for internal use if that is
>> indeed easier?
>
> Swift doesn't really have any features that stop working across
> modules. We're okay with the programmer having to think more and be
> more explicit across module boundaries (since it is API design at that
> point), but it'd take a very strong argument to have different runtime
> semantics across module boundaries.
>
> FWIW, I'm planning to write a complete proposal for conditional
> conformances and will start posting drafts once it is far enough along
> to be useful. It won't have support for protocols conforming to other
> protocols, though.
So “a Collection is Equatable if its elements are?” == not supported?
--
-Dave
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