Hi Joe, >> I just realised, that the problem is slightly worse than I originally >> described. I believed that successful calls in between the actual call the >> programmer wanted to make and capturing `errno` are not a problem. >> >> But POSIX seems to suggest [4] that "The setting of errno after a successful >> call to a function is unspecified unless the description of that function >> specifies that errno shall not be modified." . The Linux man page [5] also >> mentions that "a function that succeeds is allowed to change errno." >> >> To me this means that the issue is wider than just ARC. I think the problem >> extends to memory allocations on the heap. Failed memory allocations aren't >> a problem because they are terminal in Swift. However, _successful_ memory >> allocations might be a problem because the malloc(3) that the Swift compiler >> will use is absolutely free to set errno to 0 (or any other value in fact) >> indicating success. (Said that at least malloc doesn't change `errno` on the >> macOS or Linux I tested today, we probably shouldn't rely on that though.) >> >> This makes it even more unpredictable to the programmer what a use of >> `errno` in Swift will return. IMHO it shouldn't be exported to Swift as its >> value is undefined almost(?) everywhere. >> >> [4]: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/errno.html >> [5]: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/errno.3.html > > Swift's implicit allocations don't directly use malloc/free.
Ah right, that's good to know. But still, "explicit" allocation by creating an object does, right? Like class Foo {} let x = Foo() does allocate through _swift_allocObject_ -> swift_slowAlloc -> malloc . > If there is a platform where a successful malloc dirties errno, we should > avoid doing so in the Swift runtime's entry points. ok, agreed, should there be a platform where malloc that dirties `errno` it could be worked around by saving and restoring the `errno`. Cheers, Johannes _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list swift-evolution@swift.org https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution