I agree, this makes focusing on the right types of changes much easier and helps us avoid turning Swift into an incoherent conglomeration of random use-cases (*cough*, C#, *cough*). Now, the question is: when will be the time to officially push the factory initializers proposal and which stage should it be targeting?
> On Jun 12, 2017, at 12:06 AM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: > > I think there is merit to the current system, although it can be annoying. > > I’m sure we can all agree that a properly submitted and approved proposal > should have solicited the fullest possible feedback at each stage, including > the initial pitch stages. Based on the experience of Swift 3 evolution, > however, it’s clear that there is limited bandwidth for participants to > engage fully with all possible topics. > > The innovation of defining priorities for each phase has really helped to > bring about a more manageable process for everyone, I think. If a proposal is > not in scope, then participants don’t (and shouldn’t) feel like they miss an > opportunity to help shape a feature by sitting out the conversation. > Therefore, by definition, any such out-of-scope conversations will not get > the fullest possible feedback from community when it is pitched, and it > should go through the pitch process again from the beginning if the aim is to > progress to the next stage. > > Otherwise, you’re basically exempting the initial pitch stage from the > parameters of what’s out of scope, defeating the purpose of that innovation. > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 15:48 Daryle Walker via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote: > I’ve read about the Swift developers taking certain kinds of proposals during > certain phases (Swift 3, Swift 4 stage 1, Swift 4 stage 2, etc.). So if > someone writes a proposal that isn’t of the type of the current phase, it’s > auto-rejected. Is it possible to set some kind of proposal queue so their > authors don’t have to guess when it’s the right time to resubmit? > > — > Daryle Walker > Mac, Internet, and Video Game Junkie > darylew AT mac DOT com > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org> > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution> > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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