> On Jul 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, smd via swift-users <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’m interested in learning Swift. Is there a need or benefit to learn 
> Objective-C first?

At this point I don’t think you need to know Obj-C, but it can help to at least 
be able to read/skim it, since if you look online for help or for sample code 
with Mac programming, the majority of it’s still going to be in Obj-C. But 
that’s fairly easy — a lot of it is just knowing how to translate some syntax. 
For example, Objective-C “[x doSomething: y]” generally becomes 
“x.doSomething(y)” in Swift.

> I’ve done some C, C++, VB 6.0, and VBA / Access in the past but I’m 
> definitely not a programmer.

I’d recommend starting by learning fundamentals, instead of jumping into 
building an app. Fortunately Xcode’s Playgrounds are a good way to do that, 
since you can build things like data structures or algorithms interactively. 
There are a lot of interesting and challenging things you can build that don’t 
require a fancy GUI but will teach you a lot. For example, look up search trees 
and see if you can implement various types like binary trees, red/black trees 
or b-trees. Or implement your own Dictionary class with a hash table.

—Jens
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