...or modify your webservers to not deliver web content on such routes to avoid PRISM and inform the customer about the "shortcut" of his switzerland to switzerland data over NSA territory... Imagine seeing such alerts while trying to pay your bills on ebanking... Reminds me of "redwindow" around the 1996 for the oldies among you.
On 26.09.2013, at 15:57, Matias Meier <me...@matias.ch> wrote: > Hi > > Ccom helpdesk won’t help you, because they don’t even know what routing is… > You need to send routing related things to peer...@aorta.net > > remarks: Peering Requests: peer...@aorta.net > remarks: Routing Issues: peer...@aorta.net > > > Freundliche Grüsse > > Matias Meier > Online WebToolbox: www.webtoolbox.ch > > Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] > Im Auftrag von Stephan Wolf > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. September 2013 15:47 > An: swinog > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Scenic route of the day: L3 towards UPC > > I have seen things here similar to this very often / permanently: > > cablecom to UK/NL often via level3 and washington instead going directly > > may something to do with UPC and partnership with level3 - and the > "Nonpartners" of level3. > > "we do not peer with you" politics ?! > > imho cogent vs level3 > > below a trace to system in london from cablecom home: > > 2 9 ms 17 ms 7 ms x.dclient.hispeed.ch [x] > 3 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms 217-168-58-101.static.cablecom.ch > [217.168.58.101] > 4 111 ms 101 ms 101 ms 84.116.211.22 > 5 101 ms 183 ms 102 ms 84.116.204.225 > 6 102 ms 101 ms 101 ms 84-116-130-181.aorta.net [84.116.130.181] > 7 102 ms 101 ms 101 ms 84.116.133.185 > 8 101 ms 101 ms 110 ms 84.116.134.62 > 9 110 ms 107 ms 158 ms te-4-1.car3.Washington1.Level3.net > [4.79.168.201] > 10 * 110 ms 117 ms ae-3-80.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net > [4.69.149.146] > 11 108 ms 107 ms 109 ms Cogent-level3-1x10G.washington.Level3.net > [4.68.63.174] > 12 149 ms 109 ms 109 ms be2113.mpd21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com > [154.54.6.170] > 13 111 ms 174 ms 107 ms te0-0-0-20.ccr21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com > [154.54.42.22] > 14 180 ms 179 ms 191 ms te0-2-0-2.mpd22.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com > [154.54.42.54] > 15 200 ms 179 ms 193 ms te0-7-0-30.ccr21.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com > [130.117.0.117] > 16 215 ms 232 ms 192 ms te2-1.ccr01.lon18.atlas.cogentco.com > [154.54.61.214] > 17 190 ms 191 ms 183 ms 149.14.8.34 > 18 179 ms 179 ms 180 ms y > > tried multiple times to escalate this in ccom helpdesk. > was silted there...... > > > > > > > 2013/9/26 Fredy Kuenzler <kuenz...@init7.net> > Anyone else seeing this... do we have a new peering spat or is it just a > random routing issue? > > Regards, > Fredy > > > > traceroute to 84.116.204.234 (84.116.204.234), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets > 1 r1zlz1.core.init7.net (77.109.136.233) [AS13030] 23.682 ms 23.741 > ms 23.775 ms > 2 r1zrh1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.209) [AS13030] 0.188 ms > r1zrh2.core.init7.net (77.109.128.74) [AS13030] 0.199 ms > r1zrh1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.209) [AS13030] 0.193 ms > 3 r1bas1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.130) [AS13030] 1.090 ms 1.129 ms > r1fra1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.250) [AS13030] 38.806 ms > 4 r1fra2.core.init7.net (77.109.128.133) [AS13030] 5.997 ms 5.988 ms > 6.016 ms > 5 TenGigabitEthernet8-1.ar2.FRA4.gblx.net (64.213.54.33) [AS3549] > 6.653 ms 6.134 ms 6.673 ms > 6 ae7.edge2.SanJose3.level3.net (4.68.62.177) [AS3356] 153.420 ms > 152.925 ms 153.399 ms > 7 vlan70.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.126) [AS3356] 161.564 ms > vlan90.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.254) [AS3356] 161.054 ms > vlan70.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.126) [AS3356] 161.807 ms > 8 ae-71-71.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.5) [AS3356] 160.948 ms > ae-61-61.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.1) [AS3356] 160.512 ms > 160.433 ms > 9 ae-2-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.135.186) [AS3356] 161.355 ms > 161.310 ms 161.509 ms > 10 ae-47-47.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.201.34) [AS3356] 161.949 ms > 4.69.201.38 (4.69.201.38) [AS3356] 161.581 ms 161.724 ms > 11 ae-1-100.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.135.253) [AS3356] 162.124 > ms 161.121 ms 161.658 ms > 12 4.69.201.85 (4.69.201.85) [AS3356] 161.126 ms 4.69.201.93 > (4.69.201.93) [AS3356] 161.524 ms 4.69.201.85 (4.69.201.85) [AS3356] > 161.193 ms > 13 ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) [AS3356] > 161.151 ms 161.558 ms ae-82-82.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net > (4.69.134.154) [AS3356] 161.627 ms > 14 ae-33-80.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.133) [AS3356] > 185.388 ms ae-43-90.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.197) [AS3356] > 263.449 ms ae-23-70.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.69) [AS3356] > 264.054 ms > 15 UPC-BROADBA.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.79.168.202) [AS3356] > 161.118 ms 161.109 ms 160.838 ms > 16 84.116.134.61 (84.116.134.61) [AS6830] 167.752 ms 167.674 ms > 159.751 ms > 17 at-vie15a-ra1-xe-2-2-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.245) [AS6830] 160.584 > ms 161.327 ms 84-116-130-62.aorta.net (84.116.130.62) [AS6830] 160.749 ms > 18 hu-bud02a-ra3-xe-1-1-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.194) [AS6830] 161.284 > ms 160.877 ms ch-zrh02a-ra1-xe-2-0-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.226) > [AS6830] 160.285 ms > 19 84.116.204.234 (84.116.204.234) [AS6830] 160.346 ms 160.831 ms > 160.272 ms > > > -- > Fredy Kuenzler > > Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd. > AS13030 > St. Georgen-Strasse 70 > CH-8400 Winterthur > Skype: flyingpotato > Phone: +41 44 315 4400 > Fax: +41 44 315 4401 > Twitter: @init7 / @kuenzler > http://www.init7.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
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