Amazing guys, I am sorry if you took my initial message as an attempt to diminish anyone's effort. That was definitely not my goal !
It is just extremely difficult to get the real picture because no provider gives this info via any public channel. Try googling "provider-of-your-choice IPv6 support" and enjoy the lack of results. There is no bad faith from my side, just that my personal knowledge is outdated (the last time I touched Swisscom RES was November 2020) so this here is an attempt to update it. Same with public/CG-NAT for v4 -- we, in this group, know more than enough how scarce resource this pool is. So not judging anyone here, just saying that googling "provider-of-your-choice IPv4 public or cgnat" gives less results than we could wish for. Ultimately what message I am trying to deliver here -- as for today, it's almost impossible to know what you get (without asking insiders) when you order a residential fiber with provider-of-your-choice. Cheers and all the best, Mat On 11/12/2024 08:32, Egon.Luginbuehl--- via swinog wrote: > Dear Mat, > > > > Chris is right in the fact that It’s now been probably around years since > Swisscom introduced dual-stack (means native v4 AND v6 addressing) to RES > end-customers. We didn’t do so because we would like to shine, but just > because infrastructure at that moment both forced AND let us do. 6rd was a > quick and dirty way how to “v6-enable” subscribers rapidly, but clearly > bandwidth-growth killed this approach even more rapidly 😉. So, in our > organization there is now engineers, who know the term 6rd only from theory – > if ever 😉. > > When it comes to public or private IPv4 addressing let me say: We try to give > out public addresses whenever we can. But Swisscom too can’t address all the > subscribers publicly with the amount of addresses we got years back. This > results in the fact that lowest-end (or even VOIP only purpose) products > would be CGNATed on IPv4. > > > > Hope this helps getting you the picture. > > > > Kind Regards > > Egon > > > > > > > > *From: *Mat Kowalski via swinog <[email protected]> > *Date: *Tuesday, 10 December 2024 at 16:07 > *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject: *[swinog] Residential FTTH IPv6 > > > Be aware: This is an external email. > > > > Hi all, > > This came up recently when I was talking with some colleagues about > residential connections... You know, regular stuff people discuss over a beer > or two... We all know Init7 is recognized as The Provider for power users and > no one argues with that. But also everyone knows we have mainstream ones > kinda-supporting IPv6. Swisscom gives public IPv4 and IPv6 via 6rd tunnel. > Similar with Sunrise, but sometimes you end up on CG-NAT. Salt is only > CG-NAT, at least according to the anecdotal proofs. > > Power users wouldn't be power if they did not try stuff. So I took my Sunrise > FTTH over native fiber (EWZ in my case, not Swisscom BBCS) and it turns out I > get public IPv4 from DHCP (expected) as well as IPv6 /56 prefix via DHCPv6 > (not expected at all). The last one is extremely surprising - the status quo > was that you can get IPv6 with Sunrise via 6rd, but DHCPv6 is a novelty. Or > is it not? > > What is the state in 2024 ? Who does IPv6 ? Who does it natively ? > > I am surprised there is no single google result about Sunrise doing DHCPv6 so > I wonder what we don't know about other ISPs. > > Cheers and have a nice day, > Mat > _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
