Don't know who lurks on sword-support, but I found this to be interesting.
Maybe some here can respond to Helmut?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [sword-support] Wrong Luther-Version?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:29:02 +0100
From: Helmut Weidner-Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], SWORD Support Volunteers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just found out the "Luther 1545" version of the unbound Bible
(unbound.biola.edu) "imported from croossword" is a later version. Please
check Your version.
The crucial passage is 1.John 5:7-9a:
"Dieser ists / der da kompt / mit wasser vnd blut / Jhesus Christus / Nicht
mit wasser alleine / sondern mit wasser vnd blut / Und der geist ists / der
da zeuget / das Geist warheit ist / Denn drey sind die da zeugen auff Erden
/ Der geist / vnd das Wasser / vnd das blut / vnd die drey sind beysamen.
So wir der menschen zeugnis annemen / ..."
If a adept modern Orthograpy and Punctuation, this should be:
"Dieser ist's / der da kommt mit Wasser und Blut, Jesus Christus: Nicht mit
Wasser allein, sondern mit Wasser und Blut. Und der Geist ist's, der da
zeuget, dass Geist Wahrheit ist. Denn drei sind, die da zeugen auf Erden:
Der Geist und das Wasser und das Blut, und die drei sind beisammen.
So wir der Menschen Zeugnis annehmen / ..."
In the orthography used in the biola version, the "dass" should be "daß".
If Your version does not show this text, it is no 1545 version. If the Words
"auff Erden" are ommitted, it is an earlier (1534?) version, if the
so-called "Comma Iohanneum" (with Father, Son, and Spirit as witnesses) is
inserted into it, is in all probability a 17-th-century edition or later
(the orthograpy points to the 19th century).
Please check the matter and correct the naming of that Luther-Version
accordingly.
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