Dear Troy,
It is great to speak with you. I'm not sure how I could have possibly missed this before, as I've been a member of this mailing list for at least 4 years now, and I've been thinking of this project for just as long. Oh well, God's timing. I am very excited to help with this project in any way that I can. I have general web dev experience, but nothing that could touch the level of programming this would require. I am mainly a UI and design guy. I am very interested in usability, because as I envision it, this could almost be like, wikipedia for scriptural translation and study, (error checking and quality control is important, as we are dealing with The Word of God) but in order to achieve this, the very complex systems of annotation etc. must be accessed though a very simple and intuitive interface. If this can be accomplished, I could see forming partnerships with seminaries, research institutes, etc. and having a constant flow of information into the system through students which would use it for class credit, and which would rotate every four years. I know my talents are possibly the least useful at this point in the project, but please, let me know what I can do. I can write emails, make phone calls, design mockups, give suggestions and thoughts. Anything I can do, I will.

This project has been on my heart for a long time. It is very important to me, because it was through my study into these manuscripts that I came to really trust Christ. I even always called the project, "the ad fontes project. " Ad Fontes, of course, meaning "to the sources," or, "to the fountain." Anything I can do to help, please assign me a role, and I will work on it. I so believe in this project, that if you need someone to lick envelopes,...I will do it.
Thank you.

On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:39 AM, sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org wrote:

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:25:27 +0000
From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <scr...@crosswire.org>
To: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Looking for help/direction with Scriptural
        Archiving Study Project
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Dear Jonathan,

Thank you for being interested! Yes, this is exactly what we'd like to
build for INTF, ITSEE, CSNTM, and CNTTS (I trust people can google if
they're not familiar with the acronyms above and below, but if you're
interested in the TC world these are probably familiar to you)

Where we are:

The above mentioned organizations are the leading players in the NT TC
world.  They all have a good relationship with the others and are very
willing to share in work together.  ITSEE and INTF are partners on the
ECM and IGNTP; CSNTM is happy to share images with anyone, including on the INTF's VMR; and CNTTS is working hard providing collations to ITSEE
for the IGNTP.

What they don't have is a collaborative online workspace and common
standards to share their data easily.

I am full time at ITSEE these days and trying to resolve some of these
issues.

We've only really just scratched the surface of what we want to do. My
personal interest is 2-fold.

First, CrossWire has hosted community collaboration projects in the past
with great success, but the tools we built for the projects have been
'one-off, throw away' tools designed specifically for the projects.
We'd like to build a community framework where we can host future
projects for collaboration, e.g., more interlinearization projects like
Arabic/Greek, which is high on our priority as we have an interested
project leader.

And second, I am interested in TC and would ultimately like to have a
simple public site, http://ntmss.org which is similar to
http://ntcanon.org (see their excellent [Table] link at the top) which
does something similar by providing an easy to understand grid of the
entire NT, book/chapter, with the oldest manuscript date in each
chapters' square that attests to that chapter. Hovering over the cells would show a list of the oldest mss with their dates and clicking on the
cell would take you to a detailed mss list with links to their images
and transcriptions. We simply do not have the data available to do this.

Most of the tools needed for this community will be custom tools.  Not
many people are doing this work (well, they are (google "interedition"), but not under the TC banner and they don't share many tools yet either).

So, what we're planning, designing, and building are tools for:

Volunteer and Project management
Communication (listserv + chat)
Specialized tools for:
 Image viewing, annotation, and discussion.
 (see http://labs.crosswire.org/papyritools.xpi)
 Image Indexing (see current CSNTM community project)
 Image Transcription
(hardly anything yet at the ITSEE community project, but my daily work)

Lots more have been in the back of our minds, but these are the
immediate needs and we'll see where we go from here.

Working at ITSEE gives us an ideal pilot project for these community
tools; it contributes toward both my goals stated above.


Jonathan, it sounds like God has given you a heart for just this kind of
work.  What are your talents and how would you like to contribute?  I
would love to work together with you; honestly, it has been quite lonely on this front as there isn't a huge interest from the current CrossWire engineers (/me ducks in hopes of getting a huge insurgence of response).

Looking forward to sharing in work together,

Troy







On 12/06/2010 03:35 PM, jonathan batteas wrote:
I will try to keep this brief, I've been a member of this mailing list for years, and i'm really wanting to start working on a project that has
been sitting in the back of my mind for quite a while. However, the
programming is a little beyond my scope. I'm writing here to see if
anyone would be interested in working on-or even simply discussing at
greater detail- this project. It is basically an online system for the
archiving and collaborative annotation and translation of high
resolution digital images of original Scriptural Manuscripts, for the
purpose of cross referencing different text types and collections. A
brief overview, along with basic UI mockups can be seen here
http://churchco.de/developing-a-platform-for-managing-editing- scriptural-documents/


I have shown this to many different people, including Bob Pritchett ceo
at Logos Software. They all seem very interested, yet none have any
resources to dedicate to the task at this time. So, now i am really
trying to reach out to the open source community and see if anyone would be interested in helping with this in any way. Even just speaking with
someone who has more experience programming in order to identify
possible barriers, and discuss ways around them, would be incredibly
useful. Thank you to anyone for your help and interest.
Grace and Peace
Jonathan Batteas
http://pasceverbo.com

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