I can see how you might conclude that.

However, when we get permission for a copyrighted work, we get permission for 
that copyright. If the work is updated, there is a new copyright and we have to 
obtain permission for that.

In Him,
        DM

On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Thule <thules...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I should add that prior to doing anything I did check the isv.conf file which 
> says this:
> DistributionLicense=Copyrighted; Permission to distribute granted to CrossWire
> 
> 
> From .conf file at least, any reasonable person would conclude that 
> permission had already been obtained to distribute (and redistribute) ISV and 
> any additional revisions.
> 
> ~A
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Thule <thules...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Come now Peter, don't be so quick to find fault.
> 
> The Crosswire repository currently contains version 1.5 of the ISV module.  
> Nic's question was asking about the inclusion of the OT in that module.  The 
> Crosswire site doesn't say anything about the status of this module, and 
> Nic's question seems to suggest he was not aware Crosswire was prohibited 
> from distributed a later versions of this module.  His comment was 
> specifically asking about the ISV with OT included suggesting this was 
> already  direction that was being pursued.
> 
> I was trying to extend an offer to help (as a volunteer).  I certainly wasn't 
> aware that permission hadn't been obtained to distribute the ISV with the OT, 
> and the fact the ISV is already distributed with the NT suggests (perhaps 
> incorrectly) that permission has been already obtained.  Once Chris made it 
> known that Crosswire has no such permission to distribute newer versions of 
> the ISV I did exactly as Chris asked.  So what infraction have I committed 
> now?
> 
> Respectfully, if every time a newcomer or volunteer's offer is met with 
> criticism or controversy the treatment of newcomers and volunteers in this 
> group is going to appear somewhat suspect and unwelcoming.  It's a very good 
> way to drive people away from a project.  If my lack of awareness of this 
> prohibition on the ISV is why you're asking me to leave - that says much 
> about this community.
> 
> Now that I know Crosswire doesn't have permission to distribute versions of 
> the ISV other than the one currently in the repository, I'll respect that.  
> If others feel as you do, that outside contributions are unwelcome here - I 
> will kick the sand from my sandals and leave
> 
> ~A
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:20 PM, ref...@gmx.net <ref...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Andrew, this is now quite enough. Please desist posting further onto our 
> list. Your presence is undesired
> 
> Sent from my HTC
> 
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Andrew Thule" <thules...@gmail.com>
> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel@crosswire.org>
> Subject: [sword-devel] ISV status?
> Date: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 18:53
> 
> 
> Done.
> 
> I made it available here only in response to this request ..
> 
> ~A
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Chris Little <chris...@crosswire.org> wrote:
> Andrew, this document is copyrighted. We do not have permission to distribute 
> it. You certainly and absolutely do not have permission to distribute it, 
> much less to distribute it and claim that we have permission to distribute it.
> 
> Remove it immediately.
> 
> --Chris
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/3/2013 9:37 AM, Andrew Thule wrote:
> I believe there's an OSIS file that contains both testaments ... I can
> forward it if it helps this effort.
> 
> There are least two versification problems (I haven't bothered to
> address yet)
> INFO(V11N): 1Sam.11 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content
> to 1Sam.10.27
> INFO(V11N): Rev.13 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content to
> Rev.12.17
> 
> I've placed a mod based on this OSIS file in my repo if anyone interested:
> Repository: 1XO
> Host: ftp.1xo.net <http://ftp.1xo.net>
> 
> /1xo/pub/sword/betaraw
> 
> ~A
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Nic Carter <niccar...@mac.com
> <mailto:niccar...@mac.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi Team :)
> 
>     I was wondering where we were at with updating the ISV to include
>     both the OT & NT?
>     There was some chatter here about a year ago about it, but it
>     sounded yuck, given we needed to convert the text from a Word
>     document...  :/
> 
>     Thanks, ybic
>              nic...  :)
> 
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