Just one suggestion - a huge amount of our module work happens already on GitLab rather than GitHub. I think the reasons were to do with unfriendly policy changes of GitHub - but I am not entirely sure anymore. 

Cyrille, Dominique or David might know. 

We already run a GitLab instance on our CrossWire server, so we do know it in terms of admin etc.  I do not think GitHub is per se the more relevant place over GitLab in terms of exposure or ease of use. 

Might GitLab be the better choice to open up shop in? 

Peter

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On 17 Mar 2023, at 20:11, Greg Hellings <greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote:


Current owners are myself, DM, Karl, and Doug Campos. I sent Troy an invite to it.

--Greg

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:09 PM Peter von Kaehne <ref...@gmx.net> wrote:
I think I own the CrossWire organization though not sure anymore. I will look into it this weekend and approve you to the highest level if I can do so

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On 17 Mar 2023, at 19:28, Greg Hellings <greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote:


Troy,

I know we've discussed the merge issue in the past. In order to help point in the right direction, a couple of questions:

Do you still envision self hosting the repository as you have SVN and using GitHub to mirror, or do you anticipate self hosting a repository that is just an insurance policy against GitHub becoming unfriendly in the future? Most popular self hosting Git supports both push and pull to GitHub repositories, but the one you anticipate being the source will determine the recommendations and conversion path.

In the Git world, the feature you're looking at seems to be known as Code Owners. It's a relatively newer feature. Here is GitHub documentation about their implementation. Https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/about-code-owners

If you anticipate doing most of the work on a self hosted solution and pushing GitHub as the mirror, I can look for their technique.

I'll look into the Crosswire organization on GitHub to see if I have admin rights there to address #1.

--Greg

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 14:09 Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org> wrote:

I don't want this to turn into a debate.

I agree, we need to move source control to git.

I even mostly agree we should do most of our dev work on github for the visibility to draw other developers.

To move forward with this:

1) I would actually need access to the github 'crosswire' organization, which I currently don't have.

2) I am happy to migrate our 27 repos there (yes, I was also surprised we have 27, but even these old ones would be nice to have on github for posterity).
3) After #2, I would love for Github experts to help me find a solution that effectively grant elevated access to individuals for merging PRs into our master repository without my approval FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF THE REPO they own or are trusted to approve.

This #3 item had been the primary element holding us back from moving from SVN to git.  If you are unaware, SVN has a very easy way to elevate permissions for accounts for parts of the repository.  I don't want to have to approve all changes!  I trust our pumpkin holders to care for their parts of the repository.

We've discussed, in the past, submodules for handle this, but they do not handle this well.  e.g., I want to grant Greg Hellings full write access to merge any PR which updates any of our cmake scripts in all folders everywhere.  I don't know anything about cmake and Greg is an expert.  I want him to be able to manage that build system without my oversight.  I trust him.  I do not want to grant Greg merge access for code that has anything to do with our C++ engine.  He might be a great C++ programmer, but he hasn't expressed he wants that access or ever submitted C++ code for me to review and merge myself, so I want to protect Greg from accidentally merging in someone's PR which includes C++ engine code.

In SVN this is easy.  Attached is our SVN access file.  Help me translate this workflow to Github.  There must be some way to restrict merges based on the merging user and files modified in the PR.  Or at least require a review by certain users bases on the files modified in the PR.

Help me :)

Troy


On 3/17/23 11:24, Greg Hellings wrote:
Indeed. It's not a principled stand that I'm refusing to get Subversion going. It's simply that it's too much work that I haven't bothered and don't foresee doing so anytime soon.

And, with no setup to automatically test the scripts in all the environments they must support, it's not likely others are willing to commit this on my behalf.

--Greg

On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 09:42 Peter von Kaehne <ref...@gmx.net> wrote:
I think you misunderstood Greg. 

There is a long campaign and strong feeling to have the project on Git but there is no agreement or movement to that. And it seems Greg is pausing his contributions until that matter is resolved. 

Peter

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On 12 Mar 2023, at 15:51, ZdPo Ster <zdpos...@gmail.com> wrote:


I am sorry, but I did not get the point of your reply.
I do not use subversion - I use git-svn as proposed several months ago on this forum. But current cmake configuration expects everybody to use subversion, which is wrong.
These patches improve cmake build:
  •  that will work also with git-svn
  • MSVC build
  • fix depreciated
AFAIK it should cause no harm for other combinations, just improve current state.

Zdenko

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 23:18, Greg Hellings <greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never bothered to get Subversion setup on my local machine. Remembering the setup, plus my credentials, and how to use it is more labor than I've been willing to spend on this effort. If, in the future, I overcome that inertia then I'll happily test and apply this patch.

--Greg

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 5:34 AM ZdPo Ster <zdpos...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any update on this (after 3.5 months)?

Zdenko

On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 at 21:53, Greg Hellings <greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks. I am not privy to the patches email inbox, so this mailing list is the way to reach me for CMake things. I'll review these when I have the opportunity.

--Greg

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 13:46 Peter von Kaehne <ref...@gmx.net> wrote:

How to suggest improvements to the sword project?


You did it the right way. It just is a bit on/off as a project. GHellings is the cmake pumpkin holder as far as I know. I bcc him on a different email address. 

Peter



BR,

Zdenko

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: ZdPo Ster <zdpos...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 22:22
Subject: cmake patches
To: <patc...@crosswire.org>


Hello,

please find 3 few patches related to cmake build (tested on windows with MSVC 2019):
  1. cmake_fix_deprecation.patch - cmake version 3.23.2 produce depreciation warning for old minimum version, co IMO it is time to increase expected cmake version
  2. cmake_fix_msvc.patch - there is no "/O3" options in current MSVC[1]
  3. cmake_git_svn.patch - I use git svn for accessing code, but cmake produce error because of missing svn executable. He is patch that fixed it + code for detecting svn revision (MYSVN_WC_REVISION) from git

Zdenko
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