Hi Troy,

here are the screenshots from Ezra Bible App. This shows the repository list - filtered to English and German language modules.

Note that the module counts per repository are correct, but the CrossWire repository (and only that one!) does not show at all anymore with the new SWORD version, because the number of returned modules is 0. Is it a repository-specific bug?

Repository list before:

Repository list after:

Best regards,
Tobias


On 1/21/24 9:28 PM, Tobias Klein wrote:

Hi Troy,

my Windows build of SWORD has already been including CURL (currently used tag: curl-7_68_0).

Here is what CMake outputs (extract from build log on GitHub).

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3799672Z -- CONFIGURING SOURCE LIST

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3800942Z -- ZLib: system D:\a\sword-build-win32\sword-build-win32\dist\lib\zlib.lib

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3802219Z -- bzip2: system D:/a/sword-build-win32/sword-build-win32/dist/lib/libbz2.lib

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3803606Z -- xz: system D:/a/sword-build-win32/sword-build-win32/dist/lib/liblzma.lib

*2024-01-21T14:39:13.3804732Z -- cURL: system D:\a\sword-build-win32\sword-build-win32\dist\lib\libcurl_imp.lib and D:/a/sword-build-win32/sword-build-win32/curl/include*

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3805695Z -- CLucene: no

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3806800Z -- PkgConfig: yes

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3807142Z -- ICU: no

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3807647Z -- Regex.h: internal

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3814178Z -- Building Shared library.

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3818932Z -- Building Static library.

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3821940Z -- Setting SOVERSION to 1.9.0

2024-01-21T14:39:13.3972004Z -- Setting link libraries to D:\a\sword-build-win32\sword-build-win32\dist\lib\zlib.lib;D:/a/sword-build-win32/sword-build-win32/dist/lib/libbz2.lib;D:/a/sword-build-win32/sword-build-win32/dist/lib/liblzma.lib;D:\a\sword-build-win32\sword-build-win32\dist\lib\libcurl_imp.lib

I am attaching the full build log from GitHub for reference, not sure if it helps.

In a moment I will share screenshots from Ezra Bible App (before and after) with the available repository list – maybe that helps.

Best regards,
Tobias

*From: *Troy A. Griffitts <mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>
*Sent: *Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 19:57
*To: *SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org>; Tobias Klein <mailto:cont...@tklein.info>
*Subject: *Re: [sword-devel] HTTPS Transport

Hi Tobias,

Thank you so much for testing. My guess is that the difference is likely due to the way SWORD is compiled-- which dependencies SWORD is using. My speculation is that libcurl is probably available on Linux and your Windows build probably isn't using this library.

Can you let me know if SWORD is compiled with libcurl on your Windows build? I will try to test a Linux build without libcurl. I tried to make the new feature fallback to previous behavior if it couldn't use the new feature successfully. I obviously have failed in my backward compatibility effort. 😊 I will try to get it right.

Troy

On January 21, 2024 09:44:12 MST, Tobias Klein <cont...@tklein.info> wrote:

    Hi Troy,

    I have just done some testing with the latest changes in sword (SVN Rev. 
3894).

    I have not observed any issues on Linux. However, on Windows 10 the 
following happens:

    Repository data does not seem to be returned in the same way as before (I 
was previously on SVN Rev. 3873, which is from November 7 2021).
    E.g. a helper function in node-sword-interface that returns the number of 
modules per repository suddenly returns 0 modules for the CrossWire repository.

    Is there any explanation for that?
    I did not change anything in node-sword-interface, but only updated the 
sword dependency to the latest version 3894.

    Best regards,
    Tobias

    On 12/16/23 11:11 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

        Hey guys,

        For a while now, we've been working on a new mechanism for allowing a 
remote module installation repository to use only HTTPS traffic to supply their 
modules, if they wish.  A little history and how things work in the released 
SWORD engine and what we have in SVN trunk now... (skip to === NEW === if you 
don't care about the history and why)

         From the beginning of SWORD we have had as a core value the simple 
enabling of Bible distribution.  The very first versions of our installer could 
use as an installation source any working installation of a SWORD library.  
E.g., user 1 sets up Xiphos and manually unzips 100 Bibles, commentaries, 
lexicons, dictionaries, etc. for use with Xiphos.  User 1 can then share 
(network drive, USB stick, FTP) their installation folder where they have 
unzipped all the data for their library, and user 2 can come along and install 
Bibletime or Xiphos or any other SWORD application and point their installer to 
this shared location and install from there any Bible, commentary, lexicon, 
dictionary, etc., from user 1's working installation.  Then user 2 can travel 
to their school in Zimbabwe, plug into their school's network and share their 
data folder from their working SWORD application and students on that network 
can install Bibles from them.

        None of this has changed.  This is still a core value and still works 
with all the same mechanisms.

        Over the years, we have added on top of this behavior optional 
optimizations for remote repositories.  For example, instead of looking for the 
mods.d/ folder and downloading individually all the .conf files found there to 
present to a user a list of which Bibles, commentaries, etc. are available, we 
first look for a mods.d.tar.gz file with all the .conf files bundled into a 
single download.  This saves a lot of time working with large remote 
repositories.  If we don't find this file, we still fallback to downloading the 
individual files.  We don't want a failure to happen when passing along Bibles 
if this optimization is not in place, but we do want to speed things up if the 
manager of the remote repository knows how to manage their repository optimally 
and is willing to do this extra work to keep this file in place and up to date.

        Over the years, the FTP protocol, which SWORD has primarily used for 
remote module installation over the internet, has seen data providers block 
traffic due to its unencrypted nature.  Being Bible distributors, in most cases 
we don't care if anyone snoops on our data packets.  Generally, again in most 
cases, we WANT people to snoop.  We don't require user / password for 
distribution so the security issues involved in sending those in plain text 
don't apply to our applications, generally.  Now, of course there are scenarios 
which people may wish to distribute Bibles without public knowledge, and 
sometimes users may wish to protect their modules with username / password 
credentials, and for this we have historically also supported SFTP.

        One driving factor for the latest improvement described below is that 
we have found some mobile data providers blocking FTP traffic on their network, 
requiring our users to get to a WiFi connection before they can install Bibles, 
etc.


        === NEW ===

        In SVN trunk there is code to handle a new facility for remote module 
installation.  Like the optional optimization with the mods.d.tar.gz file, this 
new mechanism is optional.  All will work as before if nothing is changed.

        Fully enabling the new mechanism consists of 4 steps:

        1. assuring https access to the root folder of your module repository.

        2. mods.d.tar.gz is required for this mechanism to be successful.

        3. module.zip files must be available from a packages/ folder at the root 
of your module repository folder.  These .zip files have been historically 
required for JSword-based apps because JSword does not yet know how to install 
from an working installation of modules, as described at the beginning of this 
email.  So because many of our repository maintainers support JSword, this step 
might be as simple as creating a packages/ -> symbolic link to your JSword .zip 
module files folder, if you are already maintaining zip files.

        4. adding an HTTPSPackagePreference entry into our master repository 
list telling us the server, and path on that server, to find your repository 
with https


        The main CrossWire repository now has this mechanism enabled and can be 
used as a reference to test frontends and can be used as an example for remote 
module installation repository maintainers.

        For CrossWire main, #1 is available here, and at the root of this 
location you can also see #2 mods.d.tar.gz and #3 packages/ :

        https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw/  
<https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/raw/>

        Step 4 can be seen in our master repo list, the first entry under 
[Repos] here:

        https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/masterRepoList.conf  
<https://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/masterRepoList.conf>


        Any SWORD app compiled against SVN trunk should now only use HTTPS when 
installing modules from CrossWire main.

        May I ask to please test and give feedback?  Thank you for all the 
advice and encouragement to add this functionality.  I pray this enhances our 
ability to distribute more Bibles to those who have yet to hear the Good New of 
Jesus Christ and to be used by Him to build up His church,

        Troy

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