Thank you, Michael,
I'm fully reassured, I don't think they'll bother me, after all they're
Christians :) But I know stories about that. Your explanations seem
relevant to me.
Le 10/05/2024 à 09:13, Michael Johnson a écrit :
Hello Fr Cyrille (& all),
It looks to me like you already have a valid copyright and CC BY-SA
license on your Sainte Bible néo-Crampon Libre, with the copyright
owned by Fraternité de Tibériade. (Earlier drafts were listed as
copyrighted by the Crosswire Bible Society, but that is probably not a
problem, because the license is the same.) To copyright a work, you
don't actually need to do anything, even provide a copyright notice.
In practice, however, a copyright notice is important in the process
of trying to defend a copyright, so it should be done. To secure a
Creative Commons license, all you have to do is state clearly that the
work is released under whichever specific license you chose. I do that
automatically in all formats on eBible.org when I have the copyright
and permissions fields filled out in Haiola.
Because of your clear copyright and permission notice, and because
your work is independent and was published online before theirs was
published, they cannot *legally* claim to own the copyright on your
work. Of course, they could try to make an illegal claim. Such things
are common, since there are not usually significant consequences in
the law for making false claims of copyright ownership. However, it is
extremely unlikely that anyone could get away with trying to enforce a
false claim of copyright. Besides, lawyers probably wouldn't see a
good way to get paid by suing someone who has taken a vow of poverty. ;-)
To make sure you are covered, legally, the main thing is to keep the
copyright and license notice on your published works, as they are in
the Sword module and in the other formats distributed from eBible.org.
Technically, the copyright notice is not required, but it is helpful
and makes defending the copyright and open access license much easier.
Although they have been working on it for 20 years, if it was just
published, then it is probably safe to say that you were not copying
their work, because you would not have seen it. There is independent
evidence of your work going on earlier at
https://web.archive.org/web/20220811202015/https://ebible.org/francl/.
I don't see how inserting invisible characters in the text would be
helpful in most scenarios. It is easy enough to check for direct
copying by comparing the text. Even the ancient diff program can check
for identical texts easily enough.
Does this help?
On 5/8/24 03:01, Fr Cyrille wrote:
Hello,
I'm wondering how to secure with a CC license a work updating a bible
in the public domain, without someone being able to claim that it
belongs to them?
I'm asking because I'm doing this work on the Crampon, and a French
publisher has just published a revised Crampon. They've been working
on it for 20 years, and I'm afraid that the day my work is ready (it
is already), they'll claim it as their own?
Do I need to do anything special to make sure no one puts it under a
restrictive license?
I've also thought of inserting invisible characters in the text at
specific points, but isn't that excessive?
Thanks for your advises.
Br Cyrille
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