I said a long time ago but was panned for it but when a "Radio" station ceases 
to broadcast it s no longer is a "Radio" station . It seems to me that in many 
cases they hang on as a streaming outlet but case in point...Radio 
Netherlands...has almost nothing to offer anymore.
Doc

On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Sandy Finlayson wrote:

> Since the loss of shortwave and the advent of the iPad I do all of my BBCWS 
> listening on the TuneIn radio app, which works very nicely.
>  
> Sandy
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> From: Internetradio [mailto:internetradio-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf 
> Of Joe Buch
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:55 AM
> To: Shortwave programming discussion; d...@yahoogroups.com; Internet radio 
> discussion; na...@yahoogroups.com; o...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Internetradio] [Swprograms] [dxld] BBC World Service to reduce 
> shortwave transmissions
>  
> The biggest threat I see to BBC World Service is not the additional loss of 
> shortwave services, but instead is the recent decision to include commercial 
> breaks in their programs.  BBC on shortwave has been absent for a long time 
> here in the USA.  Instead many in the USA get their BBC fix via a local FM 
> outlet that carries BBC World service on their HD2 channel and translators 
> that receive the HD2 channel programming and rebroadcast the program material 
> on old fashioned analog FM.  Such is the case here in Palm Beach County 
> Florida.  
>  
> FCC rules will not permit the airing of commercials on stations licensed as 
> non-commercial stations.  I wonder how BBC intends to filter out commercials 
> from feeds to such stations.  Failure to come up with a plan will result in 
> the loss of many USA listeners to BBC World Service.
>  
> Joe Buch
>  
>  
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:03 PM, John A. Figliozzi 
> <jfigl...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> At one time, there was an annual publication put out by the BBC called "The 
> BBC Handbook". It was an excellent primer on how to organize, operate and 
> manage a prototype public service media enterprise.  Today, the BBC seems 
> intent on demonstrating how one destroys a former prototype public service 
> media enterprise across multiple platforms.  Is it merely coincidence that 
> all of this "(un)creative destruction" began to emerge as the BBC's 
> management became infiltrated by those who formerly worked for commercial 
> media corporate entities--many of which were abject failures--and who had no 
> understanding nor respect for the unique governing principles of public 
> service vs. "let's throw anything out there as long as it makes money" 
> commercial "values".
> 
> One thinks not.  A sad end for a once great institution now shepherded by 
> small minded, untalented hacks.
> 
> John Figliozzi
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Mike Terry <miketerr...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The Guardian
> > 19 February 2014
> > 
> > The BBC World Service will further reduce its shortwave transmissions next 
> > year as part of a £15m savings drive which staff have been warned will be a 
> > "real stretch".
> > 
> > The money will be used to invest in new TV and digital services, part of a 
> > programme called Invest to Innovate.
> > 
> > An extra £6.5m is being pumped into the World Service's budget this year, 
> > alongside an extra £1.5m of savings, helping to create 130 jobs. New 
> > initiatives include a global version of Radio 1's Newsbeat.
> > 
> > But the BBC's director of global news, Peter Horrocks, said further savings 
> > would be required in the future.
> > 
> > Horrocks told staff on Tuesday: "There will be a respite on editorial job 
> > cuts, for a year, but we will need significant further editorial and 
> > organisational savings in subsequent years.
> > 
> > "We need to save at least £15m to fund new investments across the World 
> > Service in the next three years. We have already identified about half that 
> > saving. So we need to find at least £8m extra … that is going to be a real 
> > stretch."
> > 
> > Horrocks said changes would include more multilingual reporting, with staff 
> > filing for their own language service and in English, as well as a further 
> > reduction in shortwave transmissions.
> > 
> > He said the World Service would also have to integrate further with the 
> > main BBC News operation.
> > 
> > Horrocks also announced that the BBC's global news division, which includes 
> > its world news TV channel, would be renamed "World Service Group … a sort 
> > of World Service-plus" and the World Service board would be axed with the 
> > change in its funding.
> > 
> > The new round of cuts comes after the World Service had to find £41m of 
> > savings after its budget was cut in the government's comprehensive spending 
> > review three years ago, leading to the loss of about 550 jobs.
> > 
> > It closed five language services, stopped radio broadcasts in seven 
> > languages, cut back on shortwave and medium-wave transmissions and axed a 
> > number of World Service English programmes.
> > 
> > The World Service is to be funded directly from the BBC licence fee, along 
> > with BBC Monitoring, rather than a Foreign Office direct grant, from 1 
> > April. This switch was agreed between the BBC and the government as part of 
> > the 2010 licence fee settlement.
> > 
> > http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/19/bbc-world-service-reduce-shortwave-peter-horrocks
> > 
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