For sure. That was my mistake. I thought developers out ranked packagers. I
will change your role right now.

Thanks for the help.

- Jon

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Tom Boutell <t...@punkave.com> wrote:

>
> Packagers outrank developers - they can modify svn, *and* they can
> upload actual releases. If you just want me to edit and commit
> package.xml and leave it to you to make and upload packages that I
> would then test against, I can do that, but it would save time for one
> person to do the back-and-forth on that.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I figured you would need commit access to fix any problems with the
> > package.xml.
> >
> > I am pretty sure a developer can packager too? If you can't have access
> to
> > svn and be a packager without being a project leader then it sounds like
> > that might need to be fixed.
> >
> > - Jon
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tom Boutell <t...@punkave.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks like you made me a developer, not a packager...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Ok. Request access and I'll accept.
> >> >
> >> > - Jon
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Tom Boutell <t...@punkave.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sure!
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > How would you feel about me giving you access to
> >> >> > sfDoctrineGuardPlugin
> >> >> > as a
> >> >> > packager and you can help me with maintaining the packages? :) That
> >> >> > would be
> >> >> > very helpful.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - Jon
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Tom Boutell <t...@punkave.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I think I may have found it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> None of the sfDoctrineGuardPlugin package.xml files indicate what
> >> >> >> version of Symfony they require. Which is surprising, and it made
> me
> >> >> >> wonder how the heck the Symfony site knows what version of Symfony
> >> >> >> they are for.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> When I dig a little deeper I see that the 1.x and 2.x versions of
> >> >> >> sfDoctrineGuardPlugin *do* indicate what version of the
> >> >> >> sfDoctrinePlugin they are for, although they say nothing explicit
> >> >> >> about Symfony itself.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But the 3.x version (3.0.0) says nothing at all about either
> Symfony
> >> >> >> or sfDoctrinePlugin.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I suspect that Fabien's code for the plugins site is inferring the
> >> >> >> appropriate version of Symfony from the version of Symfony that
> the
> >> >> >> required sfDoctrinePlugin is associated with.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm still not sure how the plugins site is deciding to list the
> >> >> >> 3.0.0
> >> >> >> version as "for Symfony 1.2," but my suspicion is that it's just
> the
> >> >> >> default in some of Fabien's code. But not in all of it, which is
> why
> >> >> >> the 3.0.0 version is never offered to satisfy a dependency in
> >> >> >> another
> >> >> >> plugin. I think. There's still something funny about that I admit,
> >> >> >> seeing as my plugins are calling for it specifically by version
> >> >> >> number
> >> >> >> range.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jon, I suggest you add:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   <package>
> >> >> >>    <name>symfony</name>
> >> >> >>    <channel>pear.symfony-project.com</channel>
> >> >> >>    <min>1.2.0</min>
> >> >> >>    <max>1.3.0</max>
> >> >> >>    <exclude>1.3.0</exclude>
> >> >> >>   </package>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To the <required> section of your package.xml and see if that
> >> >> >> enables
> >> >> >> an attempt to 'plugin install sfDoctrineApplyPlugin' to find and
> use
> >> >> >> the sfDoctrineGuardPlugin package as a dependency in a Symfony 1.2
> >> >> >> project.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (Fabien, does your "strict" checkbox check for this kind of
> >> >> >> requirement? If there is such a requirement...)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jonathan Wage <jonw...@gmail.com
> >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Do the licenses of the plugins have to be the same in order to
> use
> >> >> >> > them
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > dependencies? That is the only thing I see different.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > - Jon
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Tom Boutell <t...@punkave.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm packaging pkContextCMSPlugin again and looking to do the
> >> >> >> >> dependencies right this time.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I set this up in the required block of packages.xml:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>   <package>
> >> >> >> >>    <name>sfDoctrineGuardPlugin</name>
> >> >> >> >>    <channel>plugins.symfony-project.org</channel>
> >> >> >> >>    <min>3.0.0</min>
> >> >> >> >>    <max>4.0.0</max>
> >> >> >> >>    <exclude>4.0.0</exclude>
> >> >> >> >>   </package>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> When I try to install my package I get:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> sfPearFrontendPlugin Failed to download
> >> >> >> >> >> symfony-plugins/sfDoctrineGuardPlugin
> >> >> >> >> >> sfPearFrontendPlugin (version >= 3.0.0, version <= 4.0.0,
> >> >> >> >> >> excluded
> >> >> >> >> >> versions:
> >> >> >> >> >> sfPearFrontendPlugin 4.0.0), latest release is version
> 2.0.1,
> >> >> >> >> >> stability
> >> >> >> >> >> "stable",
> >> >> >> >> >> sfPearFrontendPlugin use
> >> >> >> >> >> sfPearFrontendPlugin
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "channel://
> plugins.symfony-project.org/sfDoctrineGuardPlugin-2.0.1"
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> install
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> But there is an sfDoctrineGuardPlugin 3.0.0, and it is a stable
> >> >> >> >> release.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I could've sworn the same thing worked for
> sfDoctrineApplyPlugin,
> >> >> >> >> which is where I copied and pasted it from. I put in a lot of
> >> >> >> >> time
> >> >> >> >> last month on this mailing list making sure that worked. But to
> >> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> surprise, you can't install that plugin into a new project
> >> >> >> >> anymore
> >> >> >> >> either. Same error.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have cleared the pear cache. Heck, I've used an entirely new
> >> >> >> >> Symfony
> >> >> >> >> 1.2 project for each test.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> When I go to the sfDoctrineGuardPlugin page it does list 2.0.1
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> symfony 1.1 as the current release. But the releases page shows
> >> >> >> >> 3.0.0
> >> >> >> >> for symfony 1.2 as a stable release.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have checked symfony --version, it's 1.2.6 DEV, I'm not
> >> >> >> >> accidentally
> >> >> >> >> running 1.0 or 1.1.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Is this an issue with the packaging of sfDoctrineGuardPlugin,
> or
> >> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> >> plugin:install, or...?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Tom Boutell
> >> >> >> >> P'unk Avenue
> >> >> >> >> 215 755 1330
> >> >> >> >> punkave.com
> >> >> >> >> window.punkave.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Jonathan H. Wage
> >> >> >> > Open Source Software Developer & Evangelist
> >> >> >> > http://www.jwage.com
> >> >> >> > http://www.doctrine-project.org
> >> >> >> > http://www.symfony-project.org
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Tom Boutell
> >> >> >> P'unk Avenue
> >> >> >> 215 755 1330
> >> >> >> punkave.com
> >> >> >> window.punkave.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Jonathan H. Wage
> >> >> > Open Source Software Developer & Evangelist
> >> >> > http://www.jwage.com
> >> >> > http://www.doctrine-project.org
> >> >> > http://www.symfony-project.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Tom Boutell
> >> >> P'unk Avenue
> >> >> 215 755 1330
> >> >> punkave.com
> >> >> window.punkave.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jonathan H. Wage
> >> > Open Source Software Developer & Evangelist
> >> > http://www.jwage.com
> >> > http://www.doctrine-project.org
> >> > http://www.symfony-project.org
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom Boutell
> >> P'unk Avenue
> >> 215 755 1330
> >> punkave.com
> >> window.punkave.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan H. Wage
> > Open Source Software Developer & Evangelist
> > http://www.jwage.com
> > http://www.doctrine-project.org
> > http://www.symfony-project.org
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tom Boutell
> P'unk Avenue
> 215 755 1330
> punkave.com
> window.punkave.com
>
> >
>


-- 
Jonathan H. Wage
Open Source Software Developer & Evangelist
http://www.jwage.com
http://www.doctrine-project.org
http://www.symfony-project.org

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