Hi,

In the RFC you imply that the common case is that dependencies will not be 
used. I think the common case we should expect is that all dependencies will be 
used. The rare situations that I see in my current work is stuff like mailer or 
in some cases handles to external data sources which might be made superfluous 
due to caching. The caching case can only really be handled by injecting the 
service container I guess.

Approach 3:
I think approach 3 has the least merit. It defaults to a lot of magic and is 
going to be quite unreadable. I also do not understand why you say that "All 
the magic is optional."? It also doesnt feel like "Very concise code;" to me. 
Sure you do not need the boilerplate code in the constructor, however you need 
to repeat the same parameters in all your action methods for all the share 
dependencies.

Approach 5:
I do not have experience with annotations, they do have some appeal and I can 
see improved support for them in future PHP versions, but I also agree that its 
a bit tricky to start defining sort of our own phpdoc language. Not really the 
way to go to make symfony easier to learn.

Approach 1:
I do not like approach 1 because of the circular references and the fact that 
its not so easy to see the dependencies by just looking at the constructor (and 
action method) signatures.

Approach 2/4
As such I like approach 2 and 4 the best. For approach 4 I would encourage a 
postfix for services. It can even be something long like "Service". This 
indirectly encourages people to prefer injecting into the constructor, which 
imho is the better approach. Once we have traits (I am very certain we will see 
this in the next bigger version of PHP), we might be able to provide a trait to 
reduce the boiler plate code.

regards,
Lukas

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