All I'm hoping for is that the Symfony2 approach will be fast enough by
default instead of privileging slowish syntax candy. I for one don't
like form frameworks too much, and I think as Johannes said that most
fields don't require a template. What might be good is to define your
own "form templates" that can accept a bunch of fields and render them
in your own way (wrapped with a<li>  and god knows what you like). But
that could be left entirely to the developer to build if he likes/needs it.

Using the FormHelper or the current render() method is of course totally optional. You are free to build your form template the way you want. And this is of course also true for symfony 1.

Perhaps we need to emphasize that more in the documentation. The great thing about the Form/Validation framework is that it is totally decoupled; you can use as much or as little as you want.

Fabien

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