I suppose Twig is not bundled with SF2 - therefore it's a thirdparty from SF's point of view.
>From beginner's point of view, it can be a blow to them to learn another thing extra - especially if they're at the struggling stage of setting up SF2, the extra care on how Twig shall be setup properly.. if we can avoid them such problem, we shall do it. Yuen-Chi Lian | www.yclian.com "I do not seek; I find." - Pablo Picasso On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Jordi Boggiano <[email protected]> wrote: > Heya, > > I would like to start a discussion on whether we should adopt Twig as > the *default* Renderer for Symfony2 instead of PHP templates. > > My view of it is this: > > - PHP templates are a great default since PHP is obviously always there, > but Twig seems to have become a first class citizen already, so it > wouldn't be too problematic, and it can always be removed if someone > doesn't like it. > > - In my experience PHP templates encourage not-so-MVC-conscious > developers to put too much logic in their views, because it's very easy > to do so. Twig provides a context switch that help people make a > distinction, and also makes it harder/impossible to code complex logic > in templates. > > - Twig with the custom tokens provides much more fluent and clean > interfaces to the template helpers, not to mention shorter. e.g.: > > > {% route 'blog_post' with ['id': post.id] %} > > > > <?php echo $view['router']->generate('blog_post', array('id' => > $post->id)) ?> > > - The Twig syntax with dots to access properties and all looks and feels > like javascript, which imo is great for frontend developers to be sort > of in the same environment no matter if they work in templates or in js > code. > > - On the downside, I guess Twig has a bit of a learning curve, but then > again people must learn the symfony "keywords" anyways, like > $view['router'], that aren't especially obvious to a non-sf developer. > So it's not like PHP templates are completely straightforward, and Twig > syntax is quite simple and well documented. > > Thoughts? > > Cheers > > -- > Jordi Boggiano > @seldaek :: http://seld.be/ > > -- > If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to > security at symfony-project.com > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "symfony developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<symfony-devs%[email protected]> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en > -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en
