@Matt, having pattern and wildcard cannot work since most cache providers
to not expose API for this type of usage. =(

I personally think Doctrine Cache is good enough as a start, but of course
there're updates that we could do.
If FIG would want to provide a common interface or even a common code for
everyone to use it, I'd love to give a hand implementing it.
Personally I feel extremely tired nowadays of current threads rolling out
there as people are discussing (sorry, but..( stupid personal preferences
instead of common goal.

Cheers,


On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Matt Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd love to see FIG standardise a cache interface and for Symfony to have
> an exemplary implementation of it, but that doesn't necessarily mean it
> needs to be a Symfony component if something better already exists.
>
> Personally though I don't think Doctrine Cache is that something. At least
> not yet. It doesn't quite feel "Symfonic" (weird, since it's already part
> of Doctrine ORM), and since its current interface has no methods in common
> with the PSR proposal, it seems it would be more work to change it (and
> everything that uses it) than to accept one of the PRs mentioned below and
> document it. I could be dead wrong though; DC's support for patterns &
> wildcards is really neat, for example, and it's a stable and well-tested
> library as far as I can tell.
>
> On balance, I think I'd rather see a new Symfony Cache component.
>
> On 23 Mar 2013, at 17:21, Florin Patan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Fabien,
>
>
> Nice to see some activity for this.
>
> I think we should get this done after FIG does their job as it would help
> the
> community but after a long time discussing this, FIG has been quiet this
> week.
>
> Maybe a fresh set of eyes from Symfony community members on the
> FIG ML here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/php-fig/UkSWS48eEgo
>
> Paul did a great job in trying to summarize and get the best out of all
> proposals for FIG and there's also the long standing proposal from Robert.
>
> As for Symfony2 strictly, if FIG adopts a PSR and then Doctrine makes
> a move to become compatible with it I don't see why we couldn't rely on
> Doctrine Cache to provide the caching layer, just like we have Monolog.
>
> Have a nice weekend.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Florin
>
> On Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:11:56 PM UTC+2, Fabien Potencier wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There is probably one missing component in Symfony: a cache one. There
>> is already a ticket and 4 PRs on this topic, but I think we need to
>> discuss what we want to do before writing any code. Also because there
>> have been a lot of discussions already on the FIG group, so we also need
>> to discuss what is our position about this too.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that we won't have time to finish anything serious
>> before 2.3, so we have time to get it right.
>>
>> For reference, here are the ticket on Symfony:
>>
>> https://github.com/symfony/symfony/issues/1513
>>
>> And the 4 PRs:
>>
>> https://github.com/symfony/symfony/issues/3211
>> https://github.com/symfony/symfony/issues/3225
>> https://github.com/symfony/symfony/issues/5902
>> https://github.com/symfony/symfony/issues/5903
>>
>> Let's start the discussion!
>>
>> Fabien
>>
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