The description given by the author sounds like he is describing a CRM package like drupal more than development frameworks like symfony or Ruby on Rails. Adding all those applications into symfony would make it a mon-and-pop quick web site generator as opposed to the flexible development environment to allow a developer to create whatever he envisions quickly and easily and with little (not no) regard for how the app talks to databases, Prototype and more on how to get the app to do what you want it to.
Gareth McCumskey On 1/30/09, Lee Bolding <l...@leesbian.net> wrote: > > > Seems lot a lot of extra bloat, that would only ever be used by a > small percentile of people. I'd therefore consider these "edge cases". > > A framework ceases to be a "framework" if you have all of those > functions, and becomes more like an application server. Infact, most > of that functionality is available via the ill-fated OpenACS platform > from the equally ill-fated ArsDigita. > > Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. > > SpikeSource offer "full stacks" of "certified" integrated components, > that can offer you something along these lines... I'm REALLY against a > framework that tries to do too much, and enforces this on it's users. > Developers aren't stupid, and they'll drop a product like a hot potato > if it's making their life more difficult than it needs to. The beauty > about a well designed (eg extensible) framework, and OO code is that a > developer is free to add what components they consider to be "best of > breed" to fit their particular needs. > > Personally, I think the only thing Symfony needs to "add" is better > handling of forms via AJAX and some form of handling sfGuard > functionality via AJAX (which would probably require adoption or > creation of a JSON based DSL). > > > On 30 Jan 2009, at 08:48, Peter Bowyer wrote: > > > I came across this today, someone's take on what's missing from > > modern web frameworks. While a lot of the social side of what he's > > requesting doesn't belong in an application framework IMO, it makes > > for interesting reading. > > > > http://randomfoo.net/2009/01/28/infrastructure-for-modern-web-sites > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
