I thought I would add my thoughts as I only picked up symfony about 8 months ago for one project at the company I am working at and we now aim to use it for all of our web application development work, as well as a few of my own personal projects.
Getting used to the MVC design pattern was a little tough to get the hang of first. The first work we did was entirely scrapped because the amount of refactoring that was required to get it "up to scratch" with what is considered good design, not to mention that that first attempt ended up being a difficult app to maintain and a whole bunch of other concerns. The biggest part to get used to really was Propel, but now that I have been using it so long I love it. Seperating the logic of what you want from the database as opposed to being concerned with the how has made writing this application a lot easier further down the line. The plugins situation is frustrating at times because searching for a plugin for me really means using Google first to find the one I want and finding a link to the plugins section on the symfony website in Google search results is easier than using the symfony sites search feature. One aspect I found annoying was .. the apparent "inconsistency" of the symfony core. Development between version (1.0 -> 1.1 -> 1.2) happens too quickly. We started the project in 1.0, then upgraded it to 1.1 and now 1.2 is out and we are finishing development before considering upgrading it as we are too far down the line and too close to deadline to consider having to make framework changes because of a new version. Symfony is amazing and I love it, as do the other developers at the company I work for and without it we would still be 3-4 months away from meeting the deadline we just met last Friday. Thanks to the core developers for making such an amazing framework for us all to use and abuse! On 2/17/09, Lee Bolding <l...@leesbian.net> wrote: > > > Use the DbFinderPlugin - my FAVOURITE plugin. > > Francois converted quite a few of his plugins to use DbFinder - for > instance, sfSimpleBlog is a great example. > > I'd like to see a lot more plugins migrated to use DbFinder instead of > either Propel or Doctrine. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin Berjon" <ro...@berjon.com> > To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:10:50 PM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, > Ireland, Portugal > Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Could Symfony be easier to use? > > > The Propel/Doctrine thing is always annoying. I haven't got around to > writing a plugin yet, but is it really hard to write a plugin that > works independently of the ORM? If possible, I understand that this > can't be enforced upon plugin developers, but it should be considered > best practice. A lot of good work went into abstracting the DB layer > away, and all we've done is paint ourselves into the same corner two > layers up. I'd joke about an ORMM (Object-Relational Mapper Mapper) > but it's actually not so funny. > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
