i agree that investigating the available tools before you embark on your development is crucial, but as Gareth mentioned having the available expertise if your team jump ship (and they will) is also important, seeing as your application is already up and running - it is going to take alot more effort to rebuild your platform and learn a new framework, also ruby has its own conventions when it comes to implementing models and views so you wont be able to 'transplant' and existing logic into symfony.. its going to be much cheaper to hammer your existing code into shape than starting from scratch!
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Gediminas Morkevicius < gediminas.morkevic...@gmail.com> wrote: > I mostly like the part that we will get one more girl in the community :) > > Anyway, I personally think that if you have 3 year experience with RoR and > your team does it also, compared to 1 year of PHP or so. It would be better > to go with what you now best. > But if you still sure you want to learn new framework, when it is your > choice, if you will use Doctrine2 ORM or ODM > http://github.com/l3pp4rd/DoctrineExtensions extensions may ease the work > with behavioral functionality on models. > I must also mention that Symfony2 apps will be maintainable for ages, since > it uses DIC dependency injection container, my friends who work with java > Spring apps, have Spring1 app running in production for 6 years or so which > is simple to maintain because of DIC. But anyway anything can be done wrong > so keep it in mind, prioritize Unit tests and watch them closely and have > fun :) > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Magali Boisseau < > magali.boiss...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yep it’s exactly what I am saying in my email and as I don’t get what I >> want from other people, then, I have decided to learn php5 and symfony >> myself…Cause I am really fed up with people who just want to take my >> money….and for the community, you will get one girl more! J (I have >> already started this we)…I am determined. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *De :* symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> symfony-users@googlegroups.com] *De la part de* Gareth McCumskey >> *Envoyé :* lundi 11 avril 2011 10:39 >> >> *À :* symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> *Objet :* Re: [symfony-users] Website written on RoR Passed to Symphony?? >> >> >> >> Sometimes redeveloping from scratch is a good idea, we have done it a few >> times. However when selecting which language or framework to use you need to >> bear in mind things like available skills (i.e. people around that can code >> in that language or framework). RoR, unfortunately, does not have as big a >> developer pool available as PHP has. Even if you got a good PHP developer >> who hasn't used symfony before, symfony is not that complex to learn. >> >> Also, bear in mind that languages do not force developers into good >> practices. You can right an app badly in RoR just as easily as you can with >> PHP+symfony. >> >> Basically, you need to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of >> platforms, tools, etc. You may think RoR is a cleaner and more cutting edge >> language to use but the difficulty and cost of getting good developers for >> it may outweigh those benefits. >> >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Magali Boisseau < >> magali.boiss...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Justen, >> >> >> >> Thanks for your response. Actually, I don’t really have the choice. >> >> >> >> Three years ago, I really got interested into Ruby On Rails because as an >> Web entrepreneur, I tend to select the more effective and innovative tools >> for my company. The problem is that if you don’t program a website with the >> best practices and all the tests needed, whatever the language, then, each >> time you want to implement a new feature, it takes you twice the time and >> generates a lot of bugs. It exactly what happened with Bedycasa. I wanted to >> implement a nice, simple, clean and scalable website but the developers I >> worked with did not follow my specs and most of them just did not care about >> writing the tests. Since then, a good and reliable developer has been trying >> to fix the bugs and simplify the platform but it takes just too much time >> because things have not been written right since the beginning. >> >> >> >> Now, I’m searching for a good and reliable dev to program the new version >> of Bedycasa. I’m also considering learning symfony myself… >> >> >> >> Thanks for considering my request, >> >> You can know more about Bedycasa by clicking on this page: >> http://www.bedycasa.com/documents/bedycasa-press >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *De :* symfony-users@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> symfony-users@googlegroups.com] *De la part de* Justen Doherty >> *Envoyé :* samedi 9 avril 2011 23:56 >> *À :* symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> *Objet :* Re: [symfony-users] Website written on RoR Passed to Symphony?? >> >> >> >> its not impossible, but why would you want to make life difficult for >> yourself? >> >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM, serena79 <magali.boiss...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> hello to the community! >> >> Do you know if it s possible to turn a ror website into a symphony >> one? >> Thanks for your answers because i m considering doing it for my >> etourism website, www.bedycasa.com >> >> -- >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to >> security at symfony-project.com >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "symfony users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/justendoherty - LinkedIn >> http://www.twitter.com/phpchap - Twitter >> http://www.anotherwebdeveloper.com - Portfolio >> >> -- >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to >> security at symfony-project.com >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "symfony users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en >> >> -- >> >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to >> security at symfony-project.com >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "symfony users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gareth McCumskey >> http://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com >> twitter: @garethmcc >> >> identi.ca: @garethmcc >> >> >> >> -- >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to >> security at symfony-project.com >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "symfony users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en >> >> -- >> If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to >> security at symfony-project.com >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "symfony users" group. >> To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en >> > > -- > If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to > security at symfony-project.com > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "symfony users" group. > To post to this group, send email to symfony-users@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > symfony-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.linkedin.com/in/justendoherty - LinkedIn http://www.twitter.com/phpchap - Twitter http://www.anotherwebdeveloper.com - Portfolio -- If you want to report a vulnerability issue on symfony, please send it to security at symfony-project.com You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. 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