Also, note that even though WebGL is supported in most of the latest browser versions, this will not work with a lot of peoples systems. We've had tons of trouble getting the visualizations to run cross browser and cross platform. I still haven't figured out MAC yet.
https://github.com/pydy/pydy-viz/issues/113 Jason moorepants.info +01 530-601-9791 On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Mateusz Paprocki <matt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 18 March 2014 17:12, David Li <li.david...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just some thoughts: > > > > I agree with Jason that ultimately, integrating a library specifically > > focused on Python and web plotting is the best course for SymPy and > > Gamma/Live in general. > > > > Gamma/Live's problem is that it runs on App Engine - anything that > requires > > a server won't work. (I think Bokeh/WebAgg fall into this category, but > I'm > > not sure. > > Bokeh can just generate JSON/JavaScript/HTML, so no server is required > (thought possible as well). I'm not sure if it would run on App Engine > anyway, because of its dependencies (numpy, pandas, etc.), but we will > make them optional (most of Bokeh's dependencies are used by the > bokeh.server module anyway). > > Mateusz > > > WebAgg also isn't available on App Engine yet anyways.) > > > > WebAgg seems to render the plot on the server and send frames to the > client. > > Locally it ran at an acceptable (but slow) rate; I'm not sure how well > this > > would hold up on App Engine. > > > > One of the reasons that Gamma uses its own plotting is because it lets > the > > user pan the plot and load more of the plot on demand. > > > > On mpld3: it would be nice to integrate just to support more plots, but > for > > 3D specifically it won't help. > > On passing JSON data to the browser to render: this is what we do > already. > > > > David > > > > On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:47:50 AM UTC-7, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT wrote: > >> > >> That exactly what i was looking for! > >> I think i will go by this concept only...its awesome! > >> about using Json mathics guys also use json to render 3D plotting for > >> Three.js, Its good enough and works. > >> Thanks again. :) > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> https://github.com/pydy/pydy-viz > >>> > >>> We basically generate data on the python side, then write a json file > to > >>> disk, then we have a generic html/js/css template that uses three.js > to load > >>> in all the data from the json file and create a scene. The json file > is the > >>> communication between python and js. This is rudimentary, but works > and I > >>> think it would work for your idea too. > >>> > >>> > >>> Jason > >>> moorepants.info > >>> +01 530-601-9791 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT < > sahilshe...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> can you please point me out the direction where i can learn how PyDy > >>>> works? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> But even if you implement something with Mathbox.js then it would be > >>>>> nice if users can use it locally or through Live/Gamma. That is the > approach > >>>>> with took with pydy-viz. Right now we can run them locally and if > you want > >>>>> embed it in a website you can. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Jason > >>>>> moorepants.info > >>>>> +01 530-601-9791 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If we already use matplotlib for 3D plotting, then a long term > >>>>>> solution to this is to add three.js to the web backend of any one > of the new > >>>>>> plotting libraries that are popping up (bokeh, mpld3, matplotlib's > webagg > >>>>>> backend). Then you can simply use the library for the backend to the > >>>>>> matplotlib calls. Now, that route is more arduous and may not be > the fastest > >>>>>> course to having 3D plotting in Gamma. You can certainly implement > a custom > >>>>>> 3D web based plotter for SymPy Gamma that only works for SymPy > Gamma, but as > >>>>>> soon as these aforementioned libraries mature we will most > certainly use > >>>>>> them as the backend for SymPy plotting. I'm not involved in the > SymPy > >>>>>> plotting package so I don't know the roadmap for it or what people > really > >>>>>> want. But people that are doing plotting want what these new > libraries are > >>>>>> creating and one or more of them will become a de facto web > plotting library > >>>>>> for 3D graphics. But also having a working 3D plot in Gamma by the > end of > >>>>>> the summer will be cool, regardless if we use the more established > libs in > >>>>>> the future. If you want to go the fast and dirty route, then the > Mathbox.js > >>>>>> looks like a good choice. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jason > >>>>>> moorepants.info > >>>>>> +01 530-601-9791 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:32 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT > >>>>>> <sahilshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But we do support 3D plotting by matplotlib and also you mentioned > >>>>>>> that a lot of people are working on making it browser compatible. > >>>>>>> Sorry if i am irritating but i just want to clarify. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Jason Moore <moore...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My suggestion on melange was just to mention that if you only > focus > >>>>>>>> on 3D plotting for SymPy Gamma then we are missing the majority > of SymPy > >>>>>>>> users. My hunch is that 99% of people who use SymPy use it > locally, not from > >>>>>>>> SymPy live or SymPy Gamma. If we currently don't support 3D > plotting > >>>>>>>> locally, then the effort may be more fruitful adding 3D plotting > to SymPy > >>>>>>>> for local use. If 3D plotting for SymPy were implemented in such > a way that > >>>>>>>> it is web compatible, then the plotting for SymPy Live and SymPy > Gamma will > >>>>>>>> be gained almost for "free". > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jason > >>>>>>>> moorepants.info > >>>>>>>> +01 530-601-9791 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:15 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT > >>>>>>>> <sahilshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sorry for the slang but if a lot of people are working on the > >>>>>>>>> similar project then what is there that i can work on! > >>>>>>>>> I talked to Ondrej and David and they said that implementing 3D > >>>>>>>>> plotting for Gamma is fine. Please suggest something. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:32 PM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT > >>>>>>>>> <sahilshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So, how can i improve sympy then? > >>>>>>>>>> I mean you said that we want 3D plotting for SymPy as a whole. > so > >>>>>>>>>> , how can i improve that? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jason Moore < > moore...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> There are a lot people working on plotting in the browser, many > >>>>>>>>>>> of them tied to python execution. There probably isn't much > reason to > >>>>>>>>>>> reinvent the wheel here. This is another more simple project > that implements > >>>>>>>>>>> a d3.js backend for matplotlib: mpld3.github.io . Also there > matplotlib has > >>>>>>>>>>> a webagg backend. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jason > >>>>>>>>>>> moorepants.info > >>>>>>>>>>> +01 530-601-9791 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, SAHIL SHEKHAWAT > >>>>>>>>>>> <sahilshe...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed they are and for that there is already an option of > >>>>>>>>>>>> downloading from matplotlib's support. > >>>>>>>>>>>> We can give an option to view the plot in the web browser and > >>>>>>>>>>>> Live and Gamma are always there to help us. They can render > the plots very > >>>>>>>>>>>> nicely. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is very significant and should be my proposal for > >>>>>>>>>>>> GSOC. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot Christophe for your help. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:57:50 PM UTC+5:30, Christophe Bal > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not forget that "fixed" pictures are useful for paper > >>>>>>>>>>>>> reports. 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