I don't follow...   if you can reason about  a+b,  why can't you reason 
about lambda(a),a+b    or some other
variation?   Unless the lambda()..  is changed into binary code, it is 
still symbolic-ish.
Reasoning about binary can, of course, be done, but people usually don't 
like to do that.
RJF

On Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:20:28 AM UTC-7, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Sergey B Kirpichev 
> <skirp...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 08:55:12AM -0700, F. B. wrote: 
> >>    On Sunday, July 20, 2014 12:28:08 AM UTC, Matthew wrote: 
> >> 
> >>      > Hmm.  What's wrong with x = Wild('x', integer=True, odd=True), 
> like 
> >>      Symbol? 
> >>      +1 
> >> 
> >>    OK, let's keep it that way. 
> >> 
> >>    There is still need for an API to define attributes not related to 
> >>    assumptions. For example: default values, sequence matching, 
> optionality. 
> > 
> > We should examine these cases one by one.  It doesn't looks for me, 
> > that this approach restricted to assumptions only. 
>
> I agree. I think we should be careful to avoid things where you just 
> pass in lambda functions, because you can't do any reasoning with 
> them. They are just black boxes. Also, they are very ugly. 
>
> Aaron Meurer 
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