I take your points Sanjiva, and we did use to have samples that used
publicly available services. Unfortunately, there aren't lots of easy
to use services that demonstrate different aspects which is I think
why we moved to Axis2 as the service host.

I think there is a balance to be had. On the one hand having samples
that show locally hosted services may confuse people. On the other
hand, expecting people to go and install another piece of software
before they can even try out Synapse seems like hard work. I'm sure
its putting people off.

I think we need to make it as easy as possible to install and try out Synapse.

Paul

On 11/13/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 09:08 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>
> Sorry to cause a distraction here and that I can't be more immediately
> helpful.  Unless someone can find a simple way to make this work
> without hacking the synapse_sample xml in distracting ways, I think it
> is probably best just to doc the fact that you need to have a local
> Axis2 RC1 running to get the samples to work.

+1. I think that's the right way to do it .. Synapse is a mediation
engine and not a service host. The fact that its on Axis2 and hence can
host services should not be exploited to make it easier to run the
samples.

If the samples require a local service then you need a local service
runtime to run the service. Ideally the samples should go against remote
services so that the users don't have to do an work to get the samples
running other than downloading Synapse.

> I would be happy to
> patch the docs to reflect that if it would be helpful.  For the
> release, it might be best to put the Axis2 RC into a more easily
> locatable place like, e.g. http://people.apache.org/builds/axis2 or
> something.

Axis2 1.1 should be going out in a few hours ...

Sanjiva.



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